Apparently You Are Not Racist If You Are Not White

[tutall]

the point is we are dicussing it now, that makes it a story, you had to find it somewhere, or it wouldnt exist. wouldnt a non story be a story that we dont hear about?
Maybe this is a low profile story because it is not as big as people are trying to make it

Im pretty sure if i pointed at a wall and said that is a wall.... You would respond saying it is sheetrock screwed to boards and in fact not a wall but a standing divider

[Hilfiger1975]

[greg271126817]

Im pretty sure if i pointed at a wall and said that is a wall.... You would respond saying it is sheetrock screwed to boards and in fact not a wall but a standing divider

you are just too smart for me. Sorry, I wont mess with you anymore. Native americans are all racists because we have to share what we have earned. Maybe you all should just take that stuff from us too, and all our casino money. everything. because you know what. you did so much more for us to give you what WE have earned. Sounds like slavery, or prostitution doesnt it? we do the work and give you the money?

[habsheaven]

I take issue with the double-standard. That was the entire point. If this were a white group excluding people for not being white then people (including you guys) would go nuts over it.

When white people exclude others for not being white, it is racist. When non-whites exclude other non-whites because they are of a different race, it is no big deal. I see that as wrong. Excluding someone because of their race is wrong regardless of the race of the one doing the excluding.

And as far as the Cherokee "doing what they want", this is the real world. Because they were wronged 200 years ago does not excuse wrongdoing now.

This is NOT a double-standard. You are comparing apples to oranges. If you cannot GRASP the concept I am not going to waste my time trying to explain it to you.

[tutall]

you are just too smart for me. Sorry, I wont mess with you anymore. Native americans are all racists because we have to share what we have earned. Maybe you all should just take that stuff from us too, and all our casino money. everything. because you know what. you did so much more for us to give you what WE have earned. Sounds like slavery, or prostitution doesnt it? we do the work and give you the money?

You are missing the entire point of this post... Show me where I am disagreeing with the article... I am simply agreeing with the OP that there is a double standard... What would happen if there was a group that promoted scholarships and financial help foronly white people or we created an entire white history month... Honestly I could care less what days, months, and years people want to create... if you want to be a member of the KKK as long as you dont hurt anyone I could care less... Just like if you want to join the black panthers I am all for it... If you want to join a group that worships cats go for it... The entire point of this post is there is a double standard in America and if this was a white group secluding anyone it would be a story

[greg271126817]

I take issue with the double-standard. That was the entire point. If this were a white group excluding people for not being white then people (including you guys) would go nuts over it.

When white people exclude others for not being white, it is racist. When non-whites exclude other non-whites because they are of a different race, it is no big deal. I see that as wrong. Excluding someone because of their race is wrong regardless of the race of the one doing the excluding.

This is not Indians excluding people who are not of their native American decent. They are simply saying the money that they earn on their reservations and the other benefits that they set aside for their enrolled members should not be given to anybody else. Almost like saying the money i save for my kids for college should be given to other people who are not members of my family for their kids to go to college. Native Americans get special benefits from THEIR tribe and if they just gave anybody else those benefits then they would soon run out, and there would be nothing left for the people they set it aside for. This would destroy what they have and there would be no point of reservations or Indian tribes. Didn't the Indians suffer enough when their land was stolen from them? now everyone wants to tap into the things they have set aside, saved and earned since then.

[greg271126817]

You are missing the entire point of this post... Show me where I am disagreeing with the article... I am simply agreeing with the OP that there is a double standard... What would happen if there was a group that promoted scholarships and financial help foronly white people or we created an entire white history month... Honestly I could care less what days, months, and years people want to create... if you want to be a member of the KKK as long as you dont hurt anyone I could care less... Just like if you want to join the black panthers I am all for it... If you want to join a group that worships cats go for it... The entire point of this post is there is a double standard in America and if this was a white group secluding anyone it would be a story

Native Americans are not excluding people from anything except their life savings. its not like they are saying anything bad about anybody. They are just simply stating they are not going to give their life savings to people who are not members of their family. So there is no double standard. What they have for their nation is theirs and shouldn't have to share it with anybody else. I guess the cancer foundation is racist against the AIDS foundation because they wont share their money with them.

[tutall]

Native Americans are not excluding people from anything except their life savings. its not like they are saying anything bad about anybody. They are just simply stating they are not going to give their life savings to people who are not members of their family. So there is no double standard. What they have for their nation is theirs and shouldn't have to share it with anybody else. I guess the cancer foundation is racist against the AIDS foundation because they wont share their money with them.

I am not disagreeing with any of that.... I agree they should be able to do what they want... I am in agreement anyone should be able to do what they want as long as it doesnt hurt anyone... What I am also saying is if this was a white group of people doing the same thing it would be headline news.....

[ensbergcollector]

how do you say that they are wrong? Native americans were forced into small peices of land called reservations. They also had to start their own government because they were not accepted by white people, black people, mexicans or any other race you can come up with. So if they have their own government and own rules why would they give up the few benefits set aside by their government ( not the US federal Govt) to give to non members, Its like a whole different country. Does china share their secrets and benefits that they have with the US? how about russia, egypt? no they dont. native american land was taken away from them and they were forced to go about their own ways. If it were the native americans that took the land from white people or any other race and they had their own land set aside and own govt and everything else, would it be fair for someone to come in and get the benefits too? Its like robbing someone. If you take their money you can give it back to them, that doesnt mean you owe the whole family for the rest of time. I would agree to giving the former slave the benefits to try to make up for the wrong doing, but not ancestors. The govt give war vets certain benefits, but not all their ancestors down the line, so does this mean the US govt is racist towards any family member of someone who has served in the military?

thought we were talking about illegal immigration there for a second

[greg271126817]

I am not disagreeing with any of that.... I agree they should be able to do what they want... I am in agreement anyone should be able to do what they want as long as it doesnt hurt anyone... What I am also saying is if this was a white group of people doing the same thing it would be headline news.....

why would it be headline news, they just said im not gonna support your family with my money. Doesnt matter if it was a white group, black group, any other race. Its not about race so there should be no problem no matter who this is about. Its about giving away your money and benefits. I don't see a problem with any of that, for any race of people