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    why would it be headline news, they just said im not gonna support your family with my money. Doesnt matter if it was a white group, black group, any other race. Its not about race so there should be no problem no matter who this is about. Its about giving away your money and benefits. I don't see a problem with any of that, for any race of people

    ok, for starters, no one is saying the indians are doing anything wrong so please stop acting like everyone is here bashing native americans. The issue is if there was a white group who said, "it has come to our attention that for the last 10 years non-whites have been receiving money that we think should go to only those with white blood so we are cutting off anyone who doesn't have white blood" there would be major issue. Do you deny this?

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    ok, for starters, no one is saying the indians are doing anything wrong so please stop acting like everyone is here bashing native americans. The issue is if there was a white group who said, "it has come to our attention that for the last 10 years non-whites have been receiving money that we think should go to only those with white blood so we are cutting off anyone who doesn't have white blood" there would be major issue. Do you deny this?

    why would that be a problem, if there was a group of white people who only want to share things with white people then that's what they want to do. I dont see that hurting anybody. If there were white people reservations or black people reservations the same way there are indian reservations then they should be able to do the same thing with no issues at all. Go buy a chunk of land, invite a bunch of whatever your race is to live there, and give them certain benefits or allowances and tell every other race they cant have any. Its not going to hurt my feelings or anybody else. Now say if it was a black doctor saying he wont help white people then thats a different story, or the other way around. there is nothing wrong with a group of people not sharing with another group of people things that are for the set group, no matter what race. It would be racist for obama to say im gonna cut taxes for blacks, but white people have to pay more. thats a racist deal, because that involves a whole country, and you cant single out groups of people like that
    if whites were in the place of native americans it would be just the same in my eyes. They dont have to give anybody else anything

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    why would that be a problem, if there was a group of white people who only want to share things with white people then that's what they want to do. I dont see that hurting anybody. If there were white people reservations or black people reservations the same way there are indian reservations then they should be able to do the same thing with no issues at all. Go buy a chunk of land, invite a bunch of whatever your race is to live there, and give them certain benefits or allowances and tell every other race they cant have any. Its not going to hurt my feelings or anybody else. Now say if it was a black doctor saying he wont help white people then thats a different story, or the other way around. there is nothing wrong with a group of people not sharing with another group of people things that are for the set group, no matter what race. It would be racist for obama to say im gonna cut taxes for blacks, but white people have to pay more. thats a racist deal, because that involves a whole country, and you cant single out groups of people like that
    if whites were in the place of native americans it would be just the same in my eyes. They dont have to give anybody else anything

    we all actually agree with you... The point of the thread is if this was a white group that did it, it would be front page material... Should it be? no... but that is how the media rolls

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    why would that be a problem, if there was a group of white people who only want to share things with white people then that's what they want to do. I dont see that hurting anybody. If there were white people reservations or black people reservations the same way there are indian reservations then they should be able to do the same thing with no issues at all. Go buy a chunk of land, invite a bunch of whatever your race is to live there, and give them certain benefits or allowances and tell every other race they cant have any. Its not going to hurt my feelings or anybody else. Now say if it was a black doctor saying he wont help white people then thats a different story, or the other way around. there is nothing wrong with a group of people not sharing with another group of people things that are for the set group, no matter what race. It would be racist for obama to say im gonna cut taxes for blacks, but white people have to pay more. thats a racist deal, because that involves a whole country, and you cant single out groups of people like that
    if whites were in the place of native americans it would be just the same in my eyes. They dont have to give anybody else anything

    it shouldn't be but it would be. for example, is there a white americans college fund, a white miss america, etc.

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    why would that be a problem, if there was a group of white people who only want to share things with white people then that's what they want to do. I dont see that hurting anybody. If there were white people reservations or black people reservations the same way there are indian reservations then they should be able to do the same thing with no issues at all. Go buy a chunk of land, invite a bunch of whatever your race is to live there, and give them certain benefits or allowances and tell every other race they cant have any. Its not going to hurt my feelings or anybody else. Now say if it was a black doctor saying he wont help white people then thats a different story, or the other way around. there is nothing wrong with a group of people not sharing with another group of people things that are for the set group, no matter what race. It would be racist for obama to say im gonna cut taxes for blacks, but white people have to pay more. thats a racist deal, because that involves a whole country, and you cant single out groups of people like that
    if whites were in the place of native americans it would be just the same in my eyes. They dont have to give anybody else anything

    Surely you jest. Playing devil's advocate is one thing. Outright denying the reality that everyone can see is just pointless. If you honestly believe that no one would mind a benefit that is only available to white people then you are fooling yourself.

    Forget everything else. Show me one group or organization that is based on being white and is not considered racists. One.

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    it shouldn't be but it would be. for example, is there a white americans college fund, a white miss america, etc.


    People trip me out when they talk about no white miss america, no white college fund or white entertainment televison. First of all there is a white entertainment television. It's called mtv. No knock on mtv but the majority of their programming the average black person would not be interested in. Again nothing wrong with what they do but it is what it is. BET is programming tageted to Blacks just like the spanish stations are targeted to latinos. Anyone can watch any of these channels but keep in mind who the programs are designed for. As far as the college fund. Anyone with a half of brain knows that for years it was very difficult for blacks to get financing to college let alone go to whatever college they went to so the united negro college fund was created. Again it was not meant to discriminate against anyone but since there was an inadqueate amount of funding for college for blacks compared to whites something had to be done. Finally do I really need to explain why there is a miss black america or have you figured it out by now?
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    the point is we are dicussing it now, that makes it a story, you had to find it somewhere, or it wouldnt exist. wouldnt a non story be a story that we dont hear about?
    Maybe this is a low profile story because it is not as big as people are trying to make it

    I think you are taking the quote of "it's a nonstory" a bit too literally. When someone uses that term it doesn't mean it's not an actual story. It's a term used more to talk about the coverage of the story and that coverage hasn't hit the national media groups.

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    As for the actual article, yea there is a double standard. Always has and always will more than likely. I find it odd that they would revoke a tribal right of descendants of slaves that were given these tribal rights many years ago. I do get that this is also a tribal heritage issue as well. I'm not sure exactly which side I stand on this. It does seem odd that they pick now to revoke these rights.

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    i guess what i am saying about the white people doing the same thing is. If the white people were in the place of native Americans and history was backwards from what it is, then white people would be in the same position as native Americans, and those stories like this would not be front page news. its just the way history turned out that makes white people the bad guys for all the things they have did in the past thinking they can control people and thinking they were better than everyone else. most people are not like that now, but if it were any race in the place of NA then the story would be the same. I guess the circumstances are not the same right now and if white people did that then they would be considered racist, but if Columbus and the pilgrims and everybody else who came to America and took over where NA then it would be the exact opposite, and white people would be able to do the same thing and should be no problem. But with the way things worked out if they were to do something like that now, then yes they would be called racist by many people.

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    As for the actual article, yea there is a double standard. Always has and always will more than likely. I find it odd that they would revoke a tribal right of descendants of slaves that were given these tribal rights many years ago. I do get that this is also a tribal heritage issue as well. I'm not sure exactly which side I stand on this. It does seem odd that they pick now to revoke these rights.

    native americans have their own government and laws. They also have special benefits for enrolled members of their tribe, a few examples are they have money set aside and distribute it sometimes to the members of the tribe. they also get free health care and has been that way for years. Also special hunting, trapping and ricing license rates that are affordable for the people on their land. I pay $10 for hunting, fishing, ricing, trapping license but the state makes you pay almost $30 for each thing described. they also have discounted vehicle registration for members who live on the reservation. But you have to think if they give these benefits to non member they will soon run out, and the community would be broke. My guess would be that they gave the former slaves the benefits to try to make up for the wrong they did by enslaving those people. That still doesn't make it right, but if they continue to give away benefits like this the community will break down even more than what it is and they would have nothing

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