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[duane1969]

I have been accused of being an unwavering supporter of Obama on numerous occasions, so let me take a crack at answering it.

Let me start by saying I do not know all that much about Rev Wright or his church, but I will accept what those on the RIGHT are saying about both. I also do not know the extent of Obama's association with either, despite the exaggeration of the RIGHT or the minimalization of the LEFT.

Back in the day, Obama probably attended church as any "good" aspiring politician should. I doubt he is as religious as he leads people to believe (For that matter, I doubt most people are.) He may have chose to associate with this particular church for social or political reasons? Maybe Michelle picked it? Regardless, none of it is important.

I will also contend that maybe Obama did (and does) believe in some of what Wright was espousing. So what? Smart people open their minds to all kinds of different ideas and philosophies.

I also have no problem with Obama claiming Rev Wright as his spiritual advisor. Obama's spirituality has nothing to do with Rev Wright's political views.

At the end of the day. I think he is a GOOD man. I think he could have been a GREAT President. Unfortunately, the economy and the Republicans have never given him a chance, and at a time when the US needs co-operation the most from its legislative members, they are blowing it big time.

It's very sad when the politicians put "anything but" in front of what is best for the country.

I have no problem with anything you said except the bolded parts.

The first bolded part is because of this. It isn't what the "right" is saying, there is video of Wright saying everything that has been brought up plus anti-Semetic slurs. Obama is documented as having been attending the church during the time frame (but perhaps not the exact day) that Wright was making his statements, however it would be foolish to think that Wright was only racist and anti-American on the days that Obam wasn't there.

As to the second bolded part, I totally disagree. An anti-American racist should not be the spiritual advisor of the President of the United States.

[sanfran22]

so here's my question....would it be ok if Obama were white (I know he's half) and attended a KKK rally? No problem with that? Because this "church" isn't far off IMO.

[habsheaven]

I have no problem with anything you said except the bolded parts.

The first bolded part is because of this. It isn't what the "right" is saying, there is video of Wright saying everything that has been brought up plus anti-Semetic slurs. Obama is documented as having been attending the church during the time frame (but perhaps not the exact day) that Wright was making his statements, however it would be foolish to think that Wright was only racist and anti-American on the days that Obam wasn't there.

As to the second bolded part, I totally disagree. An anti-American racist should not be the spiritual advisor of the President of the United States.

I'm sure there is video of it. That's why I accept it. You don't think for a minute that I would accept anything the RIGHT has to say otherwise do you?

As for your other statement. That "anti-American racist" is a legitimate preacher of some sort isn't he? I don't see why it is unreasonable to think that he may have provided "spiritual" help to people aside from his other rhetoric.

[mrveggieman]

I have no problem with anything you said except the bolded parts.

The first bolded part is because of this. It isn't what the "right" is saying, there is video of Wright saying everything that has been brought up plus anti-Semetic slurs. Obama is documented as having been attending the church during the time frame (but perhaps not the exact day) that Wright was making his statements, however it would be foolish to think that Wright was only racist and anti-American on the days that Obam wasn't there.

As to the second bolded part, I totally disagree. An anti-American racist should not be the spiritual advisor of the President of the United States.

Did you speak out against Jerry Fallwell's and Pat Robertson's racism and anti semitism when they were GWB's spiritial advisors?

[Hilfiger1975]

[quote=duane1969;10539093][quote=tutall;10539039]

That is thanks to competition for high quality employees. Take 5 of those factories out of the equation and see what the salary drops to.

I get that. The problem is that for every area like yours with plenty of factories and jobs there are ten areas with no factories and hardly any jobs.

+1

[sanfran22]

Did you speak out against Jerry Fallwell's and Pat Robertson's racism and anti semitism when they were GWB's spiritial advisors?

When were they his spiritual advisers?

[ensbergcollector]

When were they his spiritual advisers?

you didn't get the memo. every idiot who calls themselves a christian, automatically speak for every christian except obama.

and veggieman - we are on page like 15 and you still won't answer the question. you should get into politics with how skilled you are at avoiding direct questions.

[mrveggieman]

When were they his spiritual advisers?

http://amputd.com/stories/view/176

That?s why Pat Robertson, the spiritual adviser of Mr. Bush, is calling for my assassination. That would be much cheaper than an invasion.?

[mrveggieman]

you didn't get the memo. every idiot who calls themselves a christian, automatically speak for every christian except obama.

and veggieman - we are on page like 15 and you still won't answer the question. you should get into politics with how skilled you are at avoiding direct questions.

I thought that's was the standard in organized religion. If one idiot speaks or does something stuipd they represent the entire religion because as we all know people who share the same religion all think the same and can never have differing opinions. Also which question are you accusing me of ducking?

[ensbergcollector]

http://amputd.com/stories/view/176

That?s why Pat Robertson, the spiritual adviser of Mr. Bush, is calling for my assassination. That would be much cheaper than an invasion.?

i got it, hugo chavez said robertson was bush's advisor. must be true then