Red Light camera's

[Star_Cards]

Actually, I think the fines go to the electric bill to keep them running.

whats the going rate for a fine of running a red light? I'd guess it's in the $100+. Does it really cost that much electricity to run one of these? Seems like it would be something, even with the actual cost of the device, that would pay for itself pretty quickly.

[Star_Cards]

It doesn't really matter if I got rear ended because the person behind me was trying to beat the yellow light.

The cameras have nothing to do with public safety they are a money grab for the city and state government period.

while it may be a money grab, would you rather have a camera do the job or them have officers sit at these lights and pull people over? for me it seems like one way or another they want to get the increased fines. Cameras are probably the most efficient way. Running a read light is illegal. The fact that a camera catches you or an actual officer catches you shouldn't really matter. Now if they were creating new traffic violations then I can see a problem, but if it's already a finable offense it shouldn't really matter who catches you.

[Star_Cards]

I think you're misunderstanding what I'm saying,there are no cops involved,the cameras take pictures of the ambulance and then we get mailed over 100 tickets a month that will never have to be paid.What I'm saying is if the light was properly patrolled by a police car and they pulled over the offending driver they would find that a good percentage were drunk.Adding this as I didn't mention it in my original post,after 3 months the light with the camera closest to our station was removed,I'm thinking the reason was because of the ambulances being ticketed but I have no proof of that.

I don;t know about your statistics on the number of red light runners being drunk, but I would bet that the majority of red light runners are perfectly sober. Sure there are red light runners, but most of the ones I have witnessed do not look intoxicated. I have no proof of that, but by going off the assumption that the vast majority of drivers are in fact sober would cause me to think most of the red light runners are not in fact drunk.

maybe the camera was just moved to another intersection. once people know that a camera is there they will start to change their habits. In my town they have these signs warning of fines for rolling a stop sign. they aren't on every sign, but they rotate them around at different places every few weeks. It gets the word out all across town but they don't have to buy signs for every single stop sign in the town.

[andrewhoya]

whats the going rate for a fine of running a red light? I'd guess it's in the $100+. Does it really cost that much electricity to run one of these? Seems like it would be something, even with the actual cost of the device, that would pay for itself pretty quickly.

Not only the electric bill.

installation fees
Ink and paper to print the tickets on
etc

[marekschwarz33]

I consider myself a responsible driver (0 tickets 0 accidents *knock on wood*) and I do not support red light cameras. So I disagree with the logic in the original post that opponents of cameras are the ones running red lights. I doubt they do very much to actually prevent accidents. If I have intentions of running a light, a stupid camera is not going to stop me. People travel over the speed limit every day. Why is that any different than running a red light? Should we install radars on the highways to give tickets to speeders?

http://blog.motorists.org/10-reasons...light-cameras/

[spuds1961]

I don;t know about your statistics on the number of red light runners being drunk, but I would bet that the majority of red light runners are perfectly sober. Sure there are red light runners, but most of the ones I have witnessed do not look intoxicated. I have no proof of that, but by going off the assumption that the vast majority of drivers are in fact sober would cause me to think most of the red light runners are not in fact drunk.

maybe the camera was just moved to another intersection. once people know that a camera is there they will start to change their habits. In my town they have these signs warning of fines for rolling a stop sign. they aren't on every sign, but they rotate them around at different places every few weeks. It gets the word out all across town but they don't have to buy signs for every single stop sign in the town.

Yea I don't have any numerical statistics to back up what I said,but working for an ambulance alot of the acidents that I go on involving intersections and red lights at least one of the cars involved had a drunk driver.I think they have done away with the cameras where I live due to citizen outcry.

[theonedru]

Yea I don't have any numerical statistics to back up what I said,but working for an ambulance alot of the acidents that I go on involving intersections and red lights at least one of the cars involved had a drunk driver.I think they have done away with the cameras where I live due to citizen outcry.

.I think they have done away with the cameras where I live due to citizen outcry.

And why were outraged, prob due to the fines they were getting while breaking the law. There is no reasonable arguments to be against these.

[spuds1961]

.I think they have done away with the cameras where I live due to citizen outcry.

And why were outraged, prob due to the fines they were getting while breaking the law. There is no reasonable arguments to be against these.

I don't have a problem with them,I was just stating that an actual police could solve an even bigger problem from happening.I was just also stating that for emergency vehicles it will take the picture and a ticket will get issued,now that's alot of wasted time and money right there.You seem angry today,cheer up.

[theonedru]

I don't have a problem with them,I was just stating that an actual police could solve an even bigger problem from happening.I was just also stating that for emergency vehicles it will take the picture and a ticket will get issued,now that's alot of wasted time and money right there.You seem angry today,cheer up.

wasn't directed towards you just the idiots that fear these things. I didn't make it out of the office in time and got suckered into a meeting if I had some warning I could have evaded it....

[spuds1961]

wasn't directed towards you just the idiots that fear these things. I didn't make it out of the office in time and got suckered into a meeting if I had some warning I could have evaded it....

That stinks I hate meetings,I was forced to leave work today because I was on a painkiller for having a tooth pulled,I was just working at the station today and wasn't driving but for some reason they wouldn't let me work,oh well I have plenty of sick time so it wasn't a bad thing.