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    If GOD would damn people to hell for little reasons such as difference of religion. Even though they were good and just people, he is NOT my GOD. Off to "hell" I go. I wouldn't want to follow a God that would do such a thing.

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    If GOD would damn people to hell for little reasons such as difference of religion. Even though they were good and just people, he is NOT my GOD. Off to "hell" I go. I wouldn't want to follow a God that would do such a thing.

    Agreed!!!

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    Think on this one.

    Truth is truth.

    You can't have many truths. No that is confusion.

    So we have one truth to find.

    Ok so what if there's one truth?

    What is it?

    Perhaps there's a true God out there working in hearts convicting of this matter.

    Full truth may not come unto we pass on from this life. However maybe we can grow in developing truth in areas of life as life goes on.

    What if there could be many beliefs out there that have a little bit of this truth with a mixture of wrong. This here would be a challenge. Perhaps that's what we see in most beliefs around the world. They may be onto something and a little off course.

    I believe that people have good intentions and are basically good. The simply need some insight into truth that truly sets you free.

    What is this truth then? Could it be Christianity at all?

    Where we put focus matters.

    Hmmm.

    I see Mrveggieman is searching, that's a good thing.

    The thing about Christianity is a genuine Christian should care about leading others astray. A real Christian will work with another to find out what truth is for both parties while not compromising personal convictions. They labor in love to help someone else find what they are seeking based on biblical understanding. And Christians come from the standpoint of having an indwelling Holy Spirit help them navigate around how to deal with all types of issues in life.

    Let's note I am not fully matured yet as a Christian.

    And let's stop here, as I could eventually write a book, and want the introduction read first. Hehe.

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    If GOD would damn people to hell for little reasons such as difference of religion. Even though they were good and just people, he is NOT my GOD. Off to "hell" I go. I wouldn't want to follow a God that would do such a thing.

    So you don't follow a single law you don't agree with?

    This argument always amuses me. Just so I have it right: If it were scientifically proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that Christianity is right, there is a God, if you follow Him you go to Heaven, and if you don't you go to Hell and suffer endless torture for all eternity, you would choose not to follow him because you don't think it's fair? Sound logic.

    I understand if you say "I don't believe that is correct." But the folks who say "Even if that is right, I would choose not to follow it"...you can disagree with selling marijuana being illegal, but you'll still go to jail for a long time if you're caught doing it.



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    Comparing something like this to laws is silly. You're talking about condemning good people. The God I believe in wouldn't do such a thing, if he would, then I was wrong for believing in such a God. Its really not that complicated, I guess for some people anyways. I would rather go down with the ship then bail like a coward if that means leaving friends/family or other good people behind. I guess one man's sound logic, is another man's nonsense. Enjoy your life raft, I'll do my best to save the women and children you left behind captain.

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    Let's put it this way based on what the bible and "GOD" has preached, no one would go hell based solely on the premise of foregiveness or I forgive you for not believing in me "GOD".

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    Comparing something like this to laws is silly. You're talking about condemning good people. The God I believe in wouldn't do such a thing, if he would, then I was wrong for believing in such a God. Its really not that complicated, I guess for some people anyways. I would rather go down with the ship then bail like a coward if that means leaving friends/family or other good people behind. I guess one man's sound logic, is another man's nonsense. Enjoy your life raft, I'll do my best to save the women and children you left behind captain.

    If Christianity is right, which is what we're assuming in this hypothetical, there is nothing you can do to save yourself, let alone anyone else. I guess one man's nonsense is actually either a complete lack of understanding of the premise...or an untruthful grab at the moral high ground.

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    Not all battles have to be won, some just have to be fought. Its a matter of principle regardless of the outcome. I wouldn't want to be in heaven with a bunch of cowards if that were the case anyways. To call what I say untruthful on that matter is utterly wrong.

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    Comparing something like this to laws is silly. You're talking about condemning good people. The God I believe in wouldn't do such a thing, if he would, then I was wrong for believing in such a God. Its really not that complicated, I guess for some people anyways. I would rather go down with the ship then bail like a coward if that means leaving friends/family or other good people behind. I guess one man's sound logic, is another man's nonsense. Enjoy your life raft, I'll do my best to save the women and children you left behind captain.

    I thought about this more and you're exactly right. Laws are made by man, can be changed, and can be broken without getting caught in some cases. Again, if we're going on the premise that Christianity is proven right, which is the point of this thread, choosing to that position would be more like choosing to disagree with gravity. Under the Christian premise, it's a certainty that if you don't accept Jesus, you go to Hell. Choosing to disagree with it because you don't think it's fair would be equivalent to disagreeing with gravity, deciding you can fly on your own, and jumping off a skyscraper based on that principle. Yes, you can do it based on your principles, but the outcome will be the same regardless. And if you call someone who chooses not to a coward...Again, I get the point if you don't believe in Christianity, but if we're assuming it has been proven correct, disagreeing with it and damning yourself to an eternity of suffering just because you don't like it is lunacy.

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    I thought about this more and you're exactly right. Laws are made by man, can be changed, and can be broken without getting caught in some cases. Again, if we're going on the premise that Christianity is proven right, which is the point of this thread, choosing to that position would be more like choosing to disagree with gravity. Under the Christian premise, it's a certainty that if you don't accept Jesus, you go to Hell. Choosing to disagree with it because you don't think it's fair would be equivalent to disagreeing with gravity, deciding you can fly on your own, and jumping off a skyscraper based on that principle. Yes, you can do it based on your principles, but the outcome will be the same regardless. And if you call someone who chooses not to a coward...Again, I get the point if you don't believe in Christianity, but if we're assuming it has been proven correct, disagreeing with it and damning yourself to an eternity of suffering just because you don't like it is lunacy.

    That is not what this thread is about. That is only one possibility.

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