God Hates Shrimp!

[ensbergcollector]

Here is my spin on it. Homosexuality is just a small part of sexual immoratilty. Some of the people who are so hell bent against homosexuality are the same ones who cheat on their wives or have sex with people who are not on their spouse. So how can someone judge a homosexual for having immoral sex if they are having immoral sex as well the only difference is they are doing it with the opposite sex?

i get your logic but you are basically claiming that everyone is sinning sexually so all are guilty.

[mrveggieman]

i get your logic but you are basically claiming that everyone is sinning sexually so all are guilty.

I'm not in everyone's bedroom so I can't say that everyone is sinning sexually but you would be amazed the hyprocricy of some people. Take Newt for example. He comes from a party of traditional conservative christian values but he seems to have no problem running around on his wife or simply giving her the heave ho when he finds someone new to lust after.

[shrewsbury]

Here is my spin on it. Homosexuality is just a small part of sexual immoratilty. Some of the people who are so hell bent against homosexuality are the same ones who cheat on their wives or have sex with people who are not on their spouse. So how can someone judge a homosexual for having immoral sex if they are having immoral sex as well the only difference is they are doing it with the opposite sex?

i agree, and it is crazy. and often the most vocal people are the ones doing it in secrecy!

i am not "against" homosexuality, but it is not for me. but i am against those who cheat on their loved ones, whether married or not, whether gay or not.

[Wickabee]

i get your logic but you are basically claiming that everyone is sinning sexually so all are guilty.

Well, there's two ways to look at that.

1 - No, not everyone is sinning sexually. Probably most, but not all. I'm absolutely certain there are people out there who have had sex with only their spouse and only after marriage.

2 - According to the bible, we're all incapable of a life without sin, so yes, we're all guilty in some form or other, whether it's sexual or not. There is no such thing as a person without sin, other than Jesus when he was here.

[shrewsbury]

According to the bible, we're all incapable of a life without sin, so yes, we're all guilty in some form or other, whether it's sexual or not. There is no such thing as a person without sin, other than Jesus when he was here.

correct, but knowing you will sin and trying to do something to stop it may be the key.

i often am disturbed by statements like" anyone can be forgiven" or how you could meet the person in heaven that raped and murdered you, because god forgives all.

this is true but it has many stipulations on it. first, remember you are dealing with god, and if the fear of hell or death is the only reason you ask forgiveness, he will know.

thinking you are forgave and being forgiven can be two different things.

we all deal with sin, but it is our actions of dealing with it that seperates us.

so if god did hate shrimp, but it was your only food, would he condemn you to hell for eating it.

I can tell you, my God would not, He is understanding, but in know way a sucker!

[AUTaxMan]

I'm not in everyone's bedroom so I can't say that everyone is sinning sexually but you would be amazed the hyprocricy of some people. Take Newt for example. He comes from a party of traditional conservative christian values but he seems to have no problem running around on his wife or simply giving her the heave ho when he finds someone new to lust after.

Fortunately for Newt and the rest of us, we have all been blessed with the gift of redemption. Nobody is perfect, so we shouldn't hold people to a standard of perfection. Even though Newt has sinned in the past, and his sexual sins have become public knowledge, that does not mean that he is a bad person or does not feel shame for what he did or is a hypocrite.

In one breath you say we shouldn't judge others, and in the other you judge Newt for his past transgressions for which he very well have been forgiven by God.

[Wickabee]

Fortunately for Newt and the rest of us, we have all been blessed with the gift of redemption. Nobody is perfect, so we shouldn't hold people to a standard of perfection. Even though Newt has sinned in the past, and his sexual sins have become public knowledge, that does not mean that he is a bad person or does not feel shame for what he did or is a hypocrite.

In one breath you say we shouldn't judge others, and in the other you judge Newt for his past transgressions for which he very well have been forgiven by God.

Unfortunately for Newt, the second the words "sanctity of marriage" come out of his mouth, yes, he is a hypocrite.

[AUTaxMan]

Unfortunately for Newt, the second the words "sanctity of marriage" come out of his mouth, yes, he is a hypocrite.

Nope. Not if he is truly contrite for what he did. You are only a hypocrite if your actions don't reflect your professed beliefs. People can change their opinions about things, you know.

[Wickabee]

Nope. Not if he is truly contrite for what he did. You are only a hypocrite if your actions don't reflect your professed beliefs. People can change their opinions about things, you know.

Oh, absolutely. However, some people can't change, and I think if you twice leave your spouse immediately following a bad diagnosis, you're probably not sorry and probably would do it again.

There is a point where you've just gone too far. In my mind, Newt's so far past the line he doesn't believe it exists anymore. Am I right? Only he and God know for sure, but I am judging based on his actions, since that's what I have to go on.

EDIT: I'll put it this way. If I finish a beer, then talk about the evils of drinking, then crack another beer, finish it, talk about the evils of drinking (continue) am I not a hypocrite? Just because I'm not drinking as I speak of the evils of drinking. Only around it.

Same with Newt, he speaks of the sanctity of marriage, his wife is diagnosed with cancer, he dupms her, speaks of the sanctity of marriage, new wife diagnosed with MS, he dumps her.

I guess since he isn't discussing the sanctity of marriage at the moment he dumps his wife that means he's not a hypocrite?

[ensbergcollector]

i think a lot of christians issues with homosexuality is what I will call "lifestyle."

i post this only for clarification, not to debate anyone. i know not everyone thinks that homosexuality is a sin. i am clarifying the stance of those that do.

according to most religions, homosexuality is a sin. yes, sin is forgivable assuming you are repentant. Repentant literally means to turn away from. If you are homosexual and have embraced that, whether by living together, getting married, or simply acting out on your homosexuality, then you have not turn away from your sin. instead, you have decided that your lifestyle will embrace that sin.
For me, the same can be said of people who are living together and sleeping together before marriage. Both, according to the bible, are sexual sins. In both instances, someone has chosen to live a lifestyle of embracing that sin.

I think there is a big difference in someone who has urges to sin, and might even sin on occasion, but is trying to turn away from that sin. And someone who has decided that their sin is just a part of who they are and therefore have no desire to turn away.


home that made sense. not trying to argue, just trying to explain a little.