Birth Certificate Analysis

[INTIMADATOR2007]

I've never heard anyone supporting the birther thing use his father not being an American citizen as part of their argument.

When Barack Obama Jr. was born on Aug. 4,1961, in Honolulu, Kenya was a British colony, still part of the United Kingdom’s dwindling empire. As a Kenyan native, Barack Obama Sr. was a British subject whose citizenship status was governed by The British Nationality Act of 1948. That same act governed the status of Obama Sr.’s children.

In other words, at the time of his birth, Barack Obama Jr. was both a U.S. citizen (by virtue of being born in Hawaii) and a citizen of the United Kingdom and Colonies (or the UKC) by virtue of being born to a father who was a citizen of the UKC.

The constitutional question presented is whether a person born with citizenship in and allegiance to a foreign nation can be considered a “natural born citizen” of the United States as required by Article II, Section 1.

[mrveggieman]

When Barack Obama Jr. was born on Aug. 4,1961, in Honolulu, Kenya was a British colony, still part of the United Kingdom’s dwindling empire. As a Kenyan native, Barack Obama Sr. was a British subject whose citizenship status was governed by The British Nationality Act of 1948. That same act governed the status of Obama Sr.’s children.

In other words, at the time of his birth, Barack Obama Jr. was both a U.S. citizen (by virtue of being born in Hawaii) and a citizen of the United Kingdom and Colonies (or the UKC) by virtue of being born to a father who was a citizen of the UKC.

The constitutional question presented is whether a person born with citizenship in and allegiance to a foreign nation can be considered a “natural born citizen” of the United States as required by Article II, Section 1.

Give it up will you? The man is our leagally elected president no matter how much sleep you lose over him every night.

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The Panama Canal Zone was actually US property, or at least an "Unorganized US Territory" when McCain was born there. I believe Puerto Rico falls under the same status. And as far as I know, Puerto Ricans are eligible to run for president.

And after looking into it more, I stand corrected, it is just one parent who has to be a citizen for a person to be President-eligible. So Obama, born in the US or not, would indeed be eligible based on his mother.

[pghin08]

The Panama Canal Zone was actually US property, or at least an "Unorganized US Territory" when McCain was born there. I believe Puerto Rico falls under the same status. And as far as I know, Puerto Ricans are eligible to run for president.

And after looking into it more, I stand corrected, it is just one parent who has to be a citizen for a person to be President-eligible. So Obama, born in the US or not, would indeed be eligible based on his mother.

Precisely.

[pspstatus]

The Panama Canal Zone was actually US property, or at least an "Unorganized US Territory" when McCain was born there. I believe Puerto Rico falls under the same status. And as far as I know, Puerto Ricans are eligible to run for president.

And after looking into it more, I stand corrected, it is just one parent who has to be a citizen for a person to be President-eligible. So Obama, born in the US or not, would indeed be eligible based on his mother.

Right after doing a little more research I found some interesting things. The Constitution does not define who is or is not a natural born citizen. It only states that a natural born citizen can be President. There are a few ways to be a natural born citizen. One of which is to be born on foreign soil to an American parent. Therefore no matter where he was born he is a natural born citizen and eligible to be President.

[mrveggieman]

Right after doing a little more research I found some interesting things. The Constitution does not define who is or is not a natural born citizen. It only states that a natural born citizen can be President. There are a few ways to be a natural born citizen. One of which is to be born on foreign soil to an American parent. Therefore no matter where he was born he is a natural born citizen and eligible to be President.

CHURCH!!

[pspstatus]

When Barack Obama Jr. was born on Aug. 4,1961, in Honolulu, Kenya was a British colony, still part of the United Kingdom’s dwindling empire. As a Kenyan native, Barack Obama Sr. was a British subject whose citizenship status was governed by The British Nationality Act of 1948. That same act governed the status of Obama Sr.’s children.

In other words, at the time of his birth, Barack Obama Jr. was both a U.S. citizen (by virtue of being born in Hawaii) and a citizen of the United Kingdom and Colonies (or the UKC) by virtue of being born to a father who was a citizen of the UKC.

The constitutional question presented is whether a person born with citizenship in and allegiance to a foreign nation can be considered a “natural born citizen” of the United States as required by Article II, Section 1.

As far as I understand it that doesn't matter especially if he was born in Hawaii. But again I've never once heard any birther supporters use that as the basis of their argument. Furthermore as far as I can tell in the definition of a natural born citizen there is no distinction relating to the citizenship of the non American parent. And I don't think that the British Nationality Act would supercede the American laws of being a natural born citizen.

[mrveggieman]

as far as i understand it that doesn't matter especially if he was born in hawaii. But again i've never once heard any birther supporters use that as the basis of their argument. Furthermore as far as i can tell in the definition of a natural born citizen there is no distinction relating to the citizenship of the non american parent. And i don't think that the british nationality act would supercede the american laws of being a natural born citizen.

preach!!

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There is nothing that says a President cannot have dual citizenship, as far as I can tell.

[bud7562]

but, he is already president, i think he will get passed that, even if he doesn't have a bc

its was a big payoff for his birth certificate from big lawyers, and to be payoff to stay in for next 4 years to mess this country up some more????