Trayvon Martin

[AUTaxMan]

That summary makes no mention of the phone call between Trayvon and his girlfriend that does not fit the facts being presented here. I wonder why?

I don't know about the phone call.

[duane1969]

If I go following around some guy that I don't know who is minding his business and he kicks my backside then I deserved exactly what I got. Why should I be able to kill someone who I provoked in the first place?

So you have gone from "Trayvon, the innocent little boy that was murdered for no reason" to "Trayvon was dishing out a butt-kicking that Zimmerman provoked and deserved"...and you did it on the same page. Nice.

[mrveggieman]

So you have gone from "Trayvon, the innocent little boy that was murdered for no reason" to "Trayvon was dishing out a butt-kicking that Zimmerman provoked and deserved"...and you did it on the same page. Nice.

I never said that Trayvon fought anyone. Neither you, I, or anyone else on this thread were there. The point I was making if you are in a public place being followed around by a stranger your first instinct is to prepare for some type of conflict.

[shrewsbury]

a gated community is not a public place, that is why it is gated

[Star_Cards]

So you have gone from "Trayvon, the innocent little boy that was murdered for no reason" to "Trayvon was dishing out a butt-kicking that Zimmerman provoked and deserved"...and you did it on the same page. Nice.

in his defense, there have been both variations provided in the media. There was nothing out originally that is anything like the current report of possible happenings.

[ensbergcollector]

I never said that Trayvon fought anyone. Neither you, I, or anyone else on this thread were there. The point I was making if you are in a public place being followed around by a stranger your first instinct is to prepare for some type of conflict.

you are right. none of us were there. that hasn't stopped you from calling zimmerman everything from a racist to a psychopathic cold blooded murderer. Not exactly the words of someone who doesn't know what happened.

[AUTaxMan]

Here's the police report:

http://www.scribd.com/doc/86368480/T...Initial-Report

Says Zimmerman's back was wet as if he'd been lying in the grass and that he was bleeding from the nose and the back of the head.

[Star_Cards]

I never said that Trayvon fought anyone. Neither you, I, or anyone else on this thread were there. The point I was making if you are in a public place being followed around by a stranger your first instinct is to prepare for some type of conflict.

I definitely see that side of the coin. I also see that if zimmerman was in fact walking back to his car there may not have been any grounds for martin to attack him and beat him. Just as zimmerman should have known he could be provoking someone to retaliate by following them, martin should have known that by punching someone and beating their head on the ground could also cause a provoked action, if that is how things went down.

the worst part about this a lot of people are going to be very upset no matter the outcome because they already have made up their minds on who is at fault.

[mrveggieman]

a gated community is not a public place, that is why it is gated

So a the penalty for trespassing is losing your life? Wow. I'm sure that no one on here ever took a shortcut through someone's yard growing up.

[ensbergcollector]

So a the penalty for trespassing is losing your life? Wow. I'm sure that no one on here ever took a shortcut through someone's yard growing up.

come on man, you know full well what he meant. you said he was walking in a public place. a gated community is not a public place. Doesn't justify murder but it does justify someone being checked out and possibly followed.