How To Get To Heaven When You Die

[pspstatus]

It's because of sin. It's not God's fault that men to what they do.

Some of the things I'm talking about were done by or sanctioned by God.

[pspstatus]

God didn't create sin. Man chose to sin. The pain and suffering that this world currently experiences is because of sin. A sin is when someone does something that is against what God wants them to do.

Yeah that seems fair. We should all suffer for letting gay people get married.

[shrewsbury]

who said gay people getting married is a sin?

The pain and suffering that this world currently experiences is because of sin.

i, myself, word word this differently.

the pain and suffering the world has always experienced is by humans own ignorant choices and their inability to control themselves and their desire to control others.

if you want to speculate on the god before jesus, then don't look at the practices of christianity, we got a second chance and a new way to have a relationship with our god

then you must be able to put yourself into the context of life and people of those days
where people will kill you, rape you, take your stuff, and do this to everyone you know. they will do this for any reason or any means needed with no mercy or quarter. sometimes the only way to control a fire is to use fire

[Paddington]

I posted a bunch of questions a few pages back regarding these things. Nobody answered.

I apologize. I looked and couldn't find them. Please repost.

[Paddington]

Yeah that seems fair. We should all suffer for letting gay people get married.

This has nothing to do with gay people. It has to do with Adam sinning. I explained that earlier. Because Adam is the head of the human race, when He sinned, it brought pain on the entire world. Yes it is wrong for gay people to be gay, but God doesn't hate them. He desires that they turn away from their sins like everyone else. Just like he desires for those who commit adultery to repent and turn to Him.

[pspstatus]

I apologize. I looked and couldn't find them. Please repost.

1. Why is slavery not deemed to be completely unacceptable? Why is it even at times divinely sanctioned?

2. Why are women not treated equally to men? Why are men allowed to "take" wives? Why are women considered unclean during menstruation, which I imagine is a natural process created by God? Why is the kidnapping and rape of women at times divinely sanctioned? How does it make sense to consider a baby impure because it came from a woman?

3. Why is the Bible so violent? Is it directly related to a desire to control? Is that why God insists on being feared?

4. Why does God say to honor your mother and father, then ask you to forsake them and anyone else for him?

5. Why does God need to be constantly worshipped and glorified? Why does he demand such intense devotion? Why would he let Satan destroy Job's life just to prove how devoted he was to him? Why did he feel it was so important to prove Satan wrong? Why was God so easily tempted?

6. If the only way to reach God is through Jesus what happened to the souls of people born before Jesus?

7. Why are some of the stories and persons from the Bible so similar to the stories and persons from other ancient civilizations?

8. Why does God seem so concerned with human sexuality? If I believe that homosexuality is not a chosen lifestyle through the experience of having a gay friend and knowing him since he was very young how can I reconcile that with what the Bible says?

9. Why do so many of the views and messages conveyed in the Bible seem to directly reflect widely held human views of the time it was written? That is to say why do views on things such as slavery, women, sexuality seem as though they are period specific and not timeless?

10. Is it possible that the Bible is a collection of some factual evidence, stories, and beliefs of its writers produced as a tool to gain control of the masses? Why are there so many versions of the Bible? Why were people or institutions such as the Church of England able to produce new translations that seemed to fit beliefs more akin to their religious structure?

11. If I disagree with one of God's views on something because of what I truly believe in my heart what does that mean?

[pspstatus]

This has nothing to do with gay people. It has to do with Adam sinning. I explained that earlier. Because Adam is the head of the human race, when He sinned, it brought pain on the entire world. Yes it is wrong for gay people to be gay, but God doesn't hate them. He desires that they turn away from their sins like everyone else. Just like he desires for those who commit adultery to repent and turn to Him.

No God doesn't hate gay people, but if they do what comes naturally to them they're going to end up burning in hell for eternity correct? And why does one mans sin affect everyone else? God takes his anger at one person out on everybody?

[whereisreggienobl]

why would anybody even want to go to Heaven?

My vision of Heaven is an incredibly boring and bland place, where everything is blindingly white. Like a country club, almost. Must wear a collared shirt, no swearing, no spitting on the greens. And the people who actually think they are going to Heaven are the people I would least like to spend eternity with. Maybe it's just personal experience, but the people I know who are "God Fearing" have the most condescending, I'm better than you attitude. Not all, but most.

Id rather be in Hell, where all my friends and my dad are certain to be, where there is gambling and loose women and recreational drugs, where there is a massive bonfire and all the great dead musicians have a concert every night, where there is no curfew and I can sleep til noon, etc...

[Wickabee]

why would anybody even want to go to Heaven?

My vision of Heaven is an incredibly boring and bland place, where everything is blindingly white. Like a country club, almost. Must wear a collared shirt, no swearing, no spitting on the greens. And the people who actually think they are going to Heaven are the people I would least like to spend eternity with. Maybe it's just personal experience, but the people I know who are "God Fearing" have the most condescending, I'm better than you attitude. Not all, but most.

Id rather be in Hell, where all my friends and my dad are certain to be, where there is gambling and loose women and recreational drugs, where there is a massive bonfire and all the great dead musicians have a concert every night, where there is no curfew and I can sleep til noon, etc...

The most popular version of heaven is most certainly not heaven.

[shrewsbury]

Id rather be in Hell, where all my friends and my dad are certain to be, where there is gambling and loose women and recreational drugs, where there is a massive bonfire and all the great dead musicians have a concert every night, where there is no curfew and I can sleep til noon, etc...

if that was hell, then everyone would want to go there.

too bad it is more like an eternity of suffering and torment, that never stops, you never get use to, and is always present.

and you won't be seeing anyone there, just yourself suffering the worst death, over and over

don't sound so cool to me