How To Get To Heaven When You Die

[ensbergcollector]

I just never grasped how people can do that. I get wanting to believe and liking the idea of how christianity says it all happened. There are plenty of fictional stories that are great stories and are nice to think about and teach great lessons, but to literally believe these supernatural things and that they happened on the earth that we know seems odd to me.

i completely understand why people feel that way. However, for me, looking at the size of the known universe, to think that it all began from a speck of dust and has expanded into billions upon billions of stars and galaxies seem far more odd to me than to believe that there is a higher power that had a hand in it.

[mrveggieman]

i completely understand why people feel that way. However, for me, looking at the size of the known universe, to think that it all began from a speck of dust and has expanded into billions upon billions of stars and galaxies seem far more odd to me than to believe that there is a higher power that had a hand in it.

CHURCH!!

[habsheaven]

i completely understand why people feel that way. However, for me, looking at the size of the known universe, to think that it all began from a speck of dust and has expanded into billions upon billions of stars and galaxies seem far more odd to me than to believe that there is a higher power that had a hand in it.

The growth of the known universe is incremental. You have no explanation, nor seem to want one, for where the heck your "higher power" came from. Not only did HE create us from nothing, but we are to believe that HE just appeared from nothing.

[ensbergcollector]

The growth of the known universe is incremental. You have no explanation, nor seem to want one, for where the heck your "higher power" came from. Not only did HE create us from nothing, but we are to believe that HE just appeared from nothing.

you have no explanation, nor seem to want one, for where the heck your "universe" came from.

again, it is a lot more rational for me to believe that God created the universe than that something (and by something i refer to billions of stars) came from a speck of dust. if you are comfortable saying "it makes sense, it is incremental" than more power to you. again, not trying to convince anyone, just sharing my feelings on the topic.

[habsheaven]

you have no explanation, nor seem to want one, for where the heck your "universe" came from.

again, it is a lot more rational for me to believe that God created the universe than that something (and by something i refer to billions of stars) came from a speck of dust. if you are comfortable saying "it makes sense, it is incremental" than more power to you. again, not trying to convince anyone, just sharing my feelings on the topic.

That's where we are different. I WANT an explanation.

[boba]

you have no explanation, nor seem to want one, for where the heck your "universe" came from.

again, it is a lot more rational for me to believe that God created the universe than that something (and by something i refer to billions of stars) came from a speck of dust. if you are comfortable saying "it makes sense, it is incremental" than more power to you. again, not trying to convince anyone, just sharing my feelings on the topic.

Thats just the beginning, I find how they explain how life first began pretty ridiculous.

[mrveggieman]

That's where we are different. I WANT an explanation.

I would like an explanation on that as well as what happened to the dinosaurs as well as why people are gay. To this day no one has proven without a shadow of a doubt any of those issues one way or the other. As a far as God is involved you I go by proofs for the existance of God by renee decartes. It dosen't promote any particular religion but does show how more than likely everything came from a God.

[ensbergcollector]

That's where we are different. I WANT an explanation.

you seem to be comfortable with the explanation that science has given you. for me, their explanation requires way more faith than my belief in God does.

[boba]

That's where we are different. I WANT an explanation.

Do you realize that most of the founders of modern science where christians trying to disprove common beliefs of the time?

[habsheaven]

you seem to be comfortable with the explanation that science has given you. for me, their explanation requires way more faith than my belief in God does.

I am more comfortable with the explanations science has given me as it relates to the progression of our universe over the last billion years or so. Science has yet to prove or disprove the existence of a God-like creator. Belief in a God requires very little faith, belief in religion as it pertains to a God, requires much more faith. A dangerous amount of faith in my mind.