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    Where does Christianity explain that other species cannot take pleasure in the suffering of others?

    Look at crows for instance, crows can mourn the death of another, they can avoid areas where they have experienced traumatic events. They can problem solve, create and use tools. If an animal can be intelligent to do this then why can't they pleasure in the suffering of others........

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    it's fine not to believe in god, but why attack those that do?

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    it's fine not to believe in god, but why attack those that do?

    Seriously. In the last week or two it seems like attacking Christians is all this P R forum is. We even have people who don't even seem to care about cards come on just to bash Christianity. I'm done with this forum.

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    it's fine not to believe in god, but why attack those that do?

    i'll save them the time

    "no one is bashing anyone. all anyone is doing is asking questions."


    yeah, i have slowed my participation lately and have been thinking very strongly about abandoning completely. once upon a time we were able to have religious threads where people disagreed and were polite about it.

    problem is, the very people who are extremely rude and condescending don't think that they are.

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    Seriously. In the last week or two it seems like attacking Christians is all this P R forum is. We even have people who don't even seem to care about cards come on just to bash Christianity. I'm done with this forum.

    That's it?

    You're just going to run because you believe we (Non-believers) are bashing you?

    i'll save them the time

    "no one is bashing anyone. all anyone is doing is asking questions."


    yeah, i have slowed my participation lately and have been thinking very strongly about abandoning completely. once upon a time we were able to have religious threads where people disagreed and were polite about it.

    problem is, the very people who are extremely rude and condescending don't think that they are.

    We present FACTS, EVIDENCE and logical Theories!

    You present FAITH....that's it!

    When we question your bible and the fallacies in it, you think we are "bashing" you guys?

    NO.....we just don't accept things on faith, we want evidence!

    THE BURDEN OF PROOF IS ON YOU GUYS!

    If this was a courthouse you guys would lose the case by a mile.

    If I tell a judge I saw an alien I have to present evidence of my claim.

    However, you guys are telling the judge to "believe and have faith" that God is real.....with absolutely NO EVIDENCE!


    We tell the judge evolution is true and here is our facts and evidence to back it up.

    guess who will win this case?

    The person with evidence.....or the person with ZERO evidence?

    If you think this is "Bashing" then you are severely WRONG!

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    Case and point ^

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    That's it?

    You're just going to run because you believe we (Non-believers) are bashing you?



    We present FACTS, EVIDENCE and logical Theories!

    You present FAITH....that's it!

    When we question your bible and the fallacies in it, you think we are "bashing" you guys?

    NO.....we just don't accept things on faith, we want evidence!

    THE BURDEN OF PROOF IS ON YOU GUYS!

    If this was a courthouse you guys would lose the case by a mile.

    If I tell a judge I saw an alien I have to present evidence of my claim.

    However, you guys are telling the judge to "believe and have faith" that God is real.....with absolutely NO EVIDENCE!


    We tell the judge evolution is true and here is our facts and evidence to back it up.

    guess who will win this case?

    The person with evidence.....or the person with ZERO evidence?

    If you think this is "Bashing" then you are severely WRONG!

    guess what. this isn't a court of law. you ask for proof from people who acknowledge they believe on faith then you are picking a fight.

    you joined this website to basically attack christianity. that has been your entire contribution to this site.

    no one here has tried to convince anyone of anything. we have answered questions and given our opinion. you and a few others have replied with:

    what about this? huh? huh? what about that, and this? huh? (insert bolded sentences and exclamation points.)


    of course you don't think it is bashing because you are the one doing it. and you come across as someone who thinks that whatever you think or say must be correct. so, naturally you think this has been a calm and mature conversation. guess what, it hasn't. of your 200ish posts, less than half could even be considered calm and rational conversation.

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    In the words of Rodney King;

    "Can't we all just get along?"

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    guess what. this isn't a court of law. you ask for proof from people who acknowledge they believe on faith then you are picking a fight.

    Do you understand what the purpose of a discussion is?

    It's to DISCUSS!

    It's NOT to agree with everyone and simply "circle jerk", it's to bring up ARGUMENTS and back them up with opinions, facts, and evidence.

    I'm not picking a fight with ANYONE, if you're going to say I believe this and that, then I'm going to ask WHY, and I'm going to pressure you to bring up a GOOD reason why.

    no one here has tried to convince anyone of anything. we have answered questions and given our opinion. you and a few others have replied with:

    what about this? huh? huh? what about that, and this? huh? (insert bolded sentences and exclamation points.).

    Yes, those are called arguments, like I said, we require EVIDENCE and FACTS.

    Let's say we were discussing Albert Pujols and why he has been slumping so much.

    The only way we could discuss this is by presenting the FACTS of why Pujols is struggling.

    Sure we can bring up "Opinions" but I can also COUNTER those opinions with facts and say "YOU ARE WRONG!"

    Would you think this is "bashing"?

    Of course not!

    But because some people want to say "this is my religion, leave me alone", that's not good enough and that's not the way a discussion/argument is won.

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    Do you understand what the purpose of a discussion is?

    It's to DISCUSS!

    It's NOT to agree with everyone and simply "circle jerk", it's to bring up ARGUMENTS and back them up with opinions, facts, and evidence.

    I'm not picking a fight with ANYONE, if you're going to say I believe this and that, then I'm going to ask WHY, and I'm going to pressure you to bring up a GOOD reason why.



    Yes, those are called arguments, like I said, we require EVIDENCE and FACTS.

    Let's say we were discussing Albert Pujols and why he has been slumping so much.

    The only way we could discuss this is by presenting the FACTS of why Pujols is struggling.

    Sure we can bring up "Opinions" but I can also COUNTER those opinions with facts and say "YOU ARE WRONG!"

    Would you think this is "bashing"?

    Of course not!

    But because some people want to say "this is my religion, leave me alone", that's not good enough and that's not the way a discussion/argument is won.

    again, you are asking for evidence and facts when it comes to religion. we are very open and saying i believe based on faith, not evidence. for you to continue to demand evidence is picking a fight.

    you keep talking about what it takes to win and argument or win in a court of law. no one here is trying to win anything except you. you are trying to prove how wrong religion is and prove how smart and right you are.

    again, you joined a sports web site just to call out christians on a sub-forum. i wonder very much how you stumbled upon this forum.


    like you said you require evidence and facts. really? you are asking for evidence and facts where there are none. for you to keep demanding them is badgering and ridiculous. again, you joined a sports card website just to pick fights with christians.

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