White House - Do Not Kill List

[duane1969]

Once you become an American citizen, you are protected by the Constitution which is the overriding law of this country. How often does it get circumvented for our "protection"? Now we have a precedent for future Presidents to follow and as always, expand upon.

If this would have been Bush, the liberal left and the media would have crucified him. It points to a big weakness of having a liberal President, since the media plays their watch dog role much more effectively when a conservative is in the White House.

I agree with everything you said, especially how the liberals would have eaten Bush alive if he had done it. However, when a citizen crosses to the side ofthe enemy and begins killing Americans I believe that he renounced his right to citizenship. While he may have not renounced in writing to the Fed government, by his actions he has expressed his desire to no longer be a citizen of our country and by default forfeits his right to the protections afforded to citizens of our country.

Being a citizen is a two-way street. One can not claim the right to be protected as if a citizen while striving to overthrow the governing body that provides those citizenship rights.

[tpeichel]

I agree with everything you said, especially how the liberals would have eaten Bush alive if he had done it. However, when a citizen crosses to the side ofthe enemy and begins killing Americans I believe that he renounced his right to citizenship. While he may have not renounced in writing to the Fed government, by his actions he has expressed his desire to no longer be a citizen of our country and by default forfeits his right to the protections afforded to citizens of our country.

Being a citizen is a two-way street. One can not claim the right to be protected as if a citizen while striving to overthrow the governing body that provides those citizenship rights.

It's not a simple issue, but American citizens are supposed to be innocent until proven guilty in a court of law, whether it be murder or any other crime, including treason.

[tpeichel]

And what about the 16-year old son of Al-Alwaki, a U.S. Citizen born in Denver, that was killed by a drone strike in Yemen two weeks after his father? Did he deserve to be assassinated by the CIA?

[habsheaven]

In a perfect world it would be nice to give every criminal their day in court, unfortunately in many of these cases the person in question cannot be apprehended safely, and since they aren't volunteering to surrender themselves, this becomes the most affective way of dealing with them. Does it really matter what their citizenry is? At the end of the day, they are all human beings and as such deserve to be treated equally.

[tpeichel]

In a perfect world it would be nice to give every criminal their day in court, unfortunately in many of these cases the person in question cannot be apprehended safely, and since they aren't volunteering to surrender themselves, this becomes the most affective way of dealing with them. Does it really matter what their citizenry is? At the end of the day, they are all human beings and as such deserve to be treated equally.

The U.S. Constitution codifies individuals liberties and freedoms with limited powers given to the central government. Assassination of U.S. Citizens is exactly the type of thing the framers were trying to stop. Sure, drone strikes are effective for the government, not so much for the citizen on the receiving end who does not get to make their case in court.

[habsheaven]

The U.S. Constitution codifies individuals liberties and freedoms with limited powers given to the central government. Assassination of U.S. Citizens is exactly the type of thing the framers were trying to stop. Sure, drone strikes are effective for the government, not so much for the citizen on the receiving end who does not get to make their case in court.

The fact that every individual is a HUMAN BEING should be what angers you, not whether or not they have US citizenry. I haven't seen the list but I would venture to guess NO ONE on it is looking for their day in court.

[tpeichel]

The fact that every individual is a HUMAN BEING should be what angers you, not whether or not they have US citizenry. I haven't seen the list but I would venture to guess NO ONE on it is looking for their day in court.

Why should non-citizens have the same protections provided by the U.S. Constitution as U.S. citizens? Every country treats citizens and non-citizens differently.

[habsheaven]

Why should non-citizens have the same protections provided by the U.S. Constitution as U.S. citizens? Every country treats citizens and non-citizens differently.

I thought it was obvious, but since it isn't, I will say it again. Because they are all human beings. They should all be protected by human decency, not a piece of paper. Are not ALL men created equal, or just all men born under a certain flag?

[tpeichel]

I thought it was obvious, but since it isn't, I will say it again. Because they are all human beings. They should all be protected by human decency, not a piece of paper. Are not ALL men created equal, or just all men born under a certain flag?

I agree that all men are created equal, but when you become an enemy of the U.S., our laws have different standards for how citizens and non-citizens are treated.

[JustAlex]

Wait.....wait....wait...

Where was this outrage by the GOP when Guantanamo Bay had people detained with NO DUE PROCESS under the Bush administration REGARDLESS of nationality?!?!?

Where was this outrage by the GOP when the Bush administration was torturing POWs which is ILLEGAL by the Geneva convention?!?!?

By my understanding Dick Cheney is a WAR CRIMINAL who is scared to leave the U.S...


The GOP: Grand Old HYPOCRICY Party....