Batterd and Raped Woman DISRACTIONS? WHAT????

[MadMan1978]

You should try to stick to topic rather than heckle someone, its unneeded and unwanted so please stop.

Fine

Now to attack you position

You are a White Male and now you say these laws, you have every protection under the law. Correct?

You then say that these laws discriminate against you a WHITE MALE?
Your argument does not hold water when we see law makers trying to make in legal to abuse women! Or even when they try to NOT provide some services to woman who is raped. as i said before ask your wife, your daughter, Your sisters? or your mother about the stance. I know at my family table I most likely would get my butt thumped by the female members of my family if I had the view.

Fact is if you carried that thought into a court you would be laughed out the door...and rightfully so.



thats on topic!

[theonedru]

Fine

Now to attack you position

You are a White Male and now you say these laws, you have every protection under the law. Correct?

You then say that these laws discriminate against you a WHITE MALE?
Your argument does not hold water when we see law makers trying to make in legal to abuse women! Or even when they try to NOT provide some services to woman who is raped. as i said before ask your wife, your daughter, Your sisters? or your mother about the stance. I know at my family table I most likely would get my butt thumped by the female members of my family if I had the view.

Fact is if you carried that thought into a court you would be laughed out the door...and rightfully so.



thats on topic!

I did not say as a white male it discriminated against me... You're desperately grasping at something that is not there. Under the laws regardless of race creed sex religious beliefs or whatever we should be all equal afforded equal protection. Just leave me alone and more on to nit pic someone else, seriously dude.

[MadMan1978]

I did not say as a white male it discriminated against me... You're desperately grasping at something that is not there. Under the laws regardless of race creed sex religious beliefs or whatever we should be all equal afforded equal protection. Just leave me alone and more on to nit pic someone else, seriously dude.

again refer to past comments

You are so jaded and i am leaving it at that
more so w/e

[Wickabee]

I did not say as a white male it discriminated against me... You're desperately grasping at something that is not there. Under the laws regardless of race creed sex religious beliefs or whatever we should be all equal afforded equal protection. Just leave me alone and more on to nit pic someone else, seriously dude.

You did say it discriminated against men. If you're a man, then you said it discriminated against you. Not sure where he got white from...

I have to say, though, that while I agree with the sentiment behind your comment, I do not agree with it in this particular case. I was angry when Oprah opened the Girls Only school (or schools, I'm not sure) in Africa a few years back. She said it was because girls are disadvantaged and boys get everything over there. So by educating the girls, she was giving them a fair shake. All well and good, I thought, until they leave school and are back into the reality of a male-run world that the school shielded them from. I felt if the boys were properly educated, real change might be possible instead of the imagined change happening through the girls only school. That was inequity, that was unfair that was shortsighted.

I feel the same way about so-called hate crime. If I mug a white man, no problem. Sure it's illegal, but nowhere near as illegal as mugging a black man or a woman or a homosexual. Yet if a black man, woman or homosexual stabs me for being a white male, it's not a hate crime because I'm a white male and lord knows nobody hates a white male...

In this instance though, I think you're off base. While we would all love the world to be equal, the fact is, it's not and it never will be. In the case of rape, while men do get raped by women, it's quite rare. Women, however, are raped every day. Everyone is not equal, as much as we would like to be. Inequity in reality sometimes requires inequity in law, as I think it does in this case. Kind of like how child molestation is a worse crime than sexual assault. Adults and children are not equal and the law recognizes that. As far as pay and basic rights (vote, drive, wear pants, etc) women and men should absolutely be equal. But in the case of rape and sexual offenses, we simply aren't and the law is reflecting that.

[theonedru]

again refer to past comments

You are so jaded and i am leaving it at that
more so w/e

And once again you insult me, as staff and the MRM you should know to hold yourself to better standards and I shall leave it at that ...

[habsheaven]

You did say it discriminated against men. If you're a man, then you said it discriminated against you. Not sure where he got white from...

I have to say, though, that while I agree with the sentiment behind your comment, I do not agree with it in this particular case. I was angry when Oprah opened the Girls Only school (or schools, I'm not sure) in Africa a few years back. She said it was because girls are disadvantaged and boys get everything over there. So by educating the girls, she was giving them a fair shake. All well and good, I thought, until they leave school and are back into the reality of a male-run world that the school shielded them from. I felt if the boys were properly educated, real change might be possible instead of the imagined change happening through the girls only school. That was inequity, that was unfair that was shortsighted.

I feel the same way about so-called hate crime. If I mug a white man, no problem. Sure it's illegal, but nowhere near as illegal as mugging a black man or a woman or a homosexual. Yet if a black man, woman or homosexual stabs me for being a white male, it's not a hate crime because I'm a white male and lord knows nobody hates a white male...

In this instance though, I think you're off base. While we would all love the world to be equal, the fact is, it's not and it never will be. In the case of rape, while men do get raped by women, it's quite rare. Women, however, are raped every day. Everyone is not equal, as much as we would like to be. Inequity in reality sometimes requires inequity in law, as I think it does in this case. Kind of like how child molestation is a worse crime than sexual assault. Adults and children are not equal and the law recognizes that. As far as pay and basic rights (vote, drive, wear pants, etc) women and men should absolutely be equal. But in the case of rape and sexual offenses, we simply aren't and the law is reflecting that.

Very well said. We Canadians sure are smart! :)

[Wickabee]

Very well said. We Canadians sure are smart! :)

It's mostly me bringing up the average. I'm great

[JustAlex]

Very well said. We Canadians sure are smart! :)

Yeah, well, we Americans are.......um....well....

USA, USA, USA!!!!

[habsheaven]

You will get no argument from me on that.

It's mostly me bringing up the average. I'm great

[Wickabee]

Yeah, well, we Americans are.......um....well....

USA, USA, USA!!!!

One thing I greatly envy about Americans is the USA chant. Every time I hear it I wish I was American so I was allowed to get pumped up over it. Chanting CA-NA-DA just isn't the same at all.

You will get no argument from me on that.

Good, because I can't back up my claim whatsoever.