Once again Rush is right .

[snoman606]

Rush is so annoying.if you like rush limbaugh you probably have high blood pressure,an IQ of 0 and a deep respect for general idiots.

[INTIMADATOR2007]

Hahaha.....what a joke all of this is.

Hey OP, I believe you're on your way to becoming a great asset to Fox News.

BTW, I bet that Kool-Aid taste mighty good!!!

The joke is a man you favor...Obama cant tell the truth if it bites him in the ....

[Star_Cards]

LOL. this is absolutely hilarious. If you actually listen to the WHOLE speech and not take a single line of it you would get the actual idea of what he was saying. He's saying that with every successful business someone down the road had helped you get to that point (to some degree) whether it was a great teacher, a mentor, a parent, employees that worked for you at the company, a bank that loaned you money, a pioneer in the industry that created something that allowed you to get into a specific field and so on. He even mentioned companies or entities that created something that allowed you to do business like the internet being invented. Without that a lot of businesses wouldn't have had the chance to have been started.

It has nothing to do with Obama hating the country or him actually thinking that anyone who started a successful business didn't work hard or have anything to do with it's success. It's about people supporting each other throughout their life and giving them opportunities to create successful businesses. For example, my brother owns a successful pizza restaurant, He's put in a ton of long hours and very hard work and yet had the previous owner (who he worked for for 10+ years) not sold him the business and helped him out with a payment plan he would have not had the opportunity to actually buy the place. He helped his boss in building the restaurant and then his boss helped him in taking it over once he decided to sell it and move on. It's about that and not saying that successful business owners aren't hard working. If you listen to the full speech that Obama gave you will hear that he said there are lots of hard working people (business owners included) and that it's not just about working hard, it's also about having some help along the way in various ways. Most people who start a business has some help to some degree and yet they still are hard working. Just because you have help doesn't mean you aren't hard working yourself or didn't earn what you have. Saying that doesn't take anything away from the work and effort that the business owner put forth.

For limbaugh and the other members of the media who are playing this one sentence and calling Obama unamerican or against small business and so on, they are simply trying to manufacture something and are completely dishonest and just looking for something to stir things up about Obama. There's no way that if you listen to the whole speech you'd think what these guys are trying to report. THey are either complete idiots or liars, in my opinion because what obama said in that speech was about giving back to america, not hating america.

Statements like this is why Limbaugh has zero credibility.

[Star_Cards]

I know it's Monday but this gets my early vote for racist comment of the week.

I don't see what you think is racist about his statement of "I say back to Kenya in November for ol' Barack...". I find it confusing since Obama isn't from nor does he live in Kenya, but I don't find it racist.

[Star_Cards]

Why are people concerned about what romney does with his money , but are not concerned what Obama does with our money. dosen't make sense . And the president is number 1 when it comes to outsourcing jobs , with 29 billion of stimulus funds going to outsourced jobs , why is that not a problem ?

see, this is much more productive. Bring up actual issues you have with Obama and don't try to make a sentence from a speech into some sort of unamerican rant when that's not what it is.

I agree with you about the cash. The system is set up for wealthy to house their funds elsewhere to shelter it from high US taxes. I get the idea of questioning the ethics of it, but people do have the right to do it. For me the issue is with the tax system and that's what needs to be changed. We should have a system that keeps this money here and also brings in money from other countries looking for shelter from their countries higher taxes.

[AUTaxMan]

LOL. this is absolutely hilarious. If you actually listen to the WHOLE speech and not take a single line of it you would get the actual idea of what he was saying. He's saying that with every successful business someone down the road had helped you get to that point (to some degree) whether it was a great teacher, a mentor, a parent, employees that worked for you at the company, a bank that loaned you money, a pioneer in the industry that created something that allowed you to get into a specific field and so on. He even mentioned companies or entities that created something that allowed you to do business like the internet being invented. Without that a lot of businesses wouldn't have had the chance to have been started.

It has nothing to do with Obama hating the country or him actually thinking that anyone who started a successful business didn't work hard or have anything to do with it's success. It's about people supporting each other throughout their life and giving them opportunities to create successful businesses. For example, my brother owns a successful pizza restaurant, He's put in a ton of long hours and very hard work and yet had the previous owner (who he worked for for 10+ years) not sold him the business and helped him out with a payment plan he would have not had the opportunity to actually buy the place. He helped his boss in building the restaurant and then his boss helped him in taking it over once he decided to sell it and move on. It's about that and not saying that successful business owners aren't hard working. If you listen to the full speech that Obama gave you will hear that he said there are lots of hard working people (business owners included) and it that it's not just about harding hard, it's also about having some help along the way in various ways. Everyone who starts a business has some help to some degree and yet they still are hard working. Just because you have help doesn't mean you aren't hard working yourself or didn't earn what you have.

For limbaugh and the other members of the media who are playing this one sentence and calling Obama unamerican or against small business and so on, they are simply trying to manufacture something and are completely dishonest and just looking for something to stir things up about Obama. There's no way that if you listen to the whole speech you'd think what these guys are trying to report. THey are either complete idiots or liars, in my opinion because what obama said in that speech was about giving back to america, not hating america.

Statements like this is why Limbaugh has zero credibility.

Actually, you are 100% wrong here. This was one of Obama's head-exploding speeches, where he lauded the great socialist society upon which this nation was built and championed the notion that because earned income is attributable to the collective, the earner of the income has an obligation to give the money back to the government, which is in Obama's mind, the grand arbiter of property distribution. I have a deep amount of respect for you, and feel that you are one of the best posters on this board. For that reason, I am surprised that you fell for Obama's bull hook, line and sinker like the many dolts that he expects to vote for him.

[habsheaven]

No, he is not 100% wrong. He viewed the speech from HIS own perspective. Just like YOU viewed it from yours. People opposed to Obama are ALWAYS going to see everything in a certain unfavourable light. Just as those that are willing to give him a chance are going to see the opposite. The point of the thread is LIMBAUGH pulls one line out of the speech (out of context) and goes on the attack. It has been said 1000 times, RUSH LIMBAUGH is a JOKE. He doesn't have a single ounce of credibility. Anyone who listens to him is continually weakening their own credibility.

[AUTaxMan]

No, he is not 100% wrong. He viewed the speech from HIS own perspective. Just like YOU viewed it from yours. People opposed to Obama are ALWAYS going to see everything in a certain unfavourable light. Just as those that are willing to give him a chance are going to see the opposite. The point of the thread is LIMBAUGH pulls one line out of the speech (out of context) and goes on the attack. It has been said 1000 times, RUSH LIMBAUGH is a JOKE. He doesn't have a single ounce of credibility. Anyone who listens to him is continually weakening their own credibility.

Limbaugh did not seize on one line and it wasn't out of context. If you heard his entire speech on the issue, you would know this.

[Star_Cards]

Actually, you are 100% wrong here. This was one of Obama's head-exploding speeches, where he lauded the great socialist society upon which this nation was built and championed the notion that because earned income is attributable to the collective, the earner of the income has an obligation to give the money back to the government, which is in Obama's mind, the grand arbiter of property distribution. I have a deep amount of respect for you, and feel that you are one of the best posters on this board. For that reason, I am surprised that you fell for Obama's bull hook, line and sinker like the many dolts that he expects to vote for him.

I never said that I agreed that was a valid reason that we should raise taxes on the wealthy so I'm not sure what you are talking about with falling for his bull hook line and sinker. I said that what he said is completely taken out of context by Limbaugh and some other radio guys that I listened to yesterday (Bortz was talking about it too yesterday). No matter what anyone's stance is on raising taxes on the wealthy, or anyone for that matter, has nothing to do with what I posted. That being said, I don't feel my post was 100% wrong, or very wrong at all. I get what Obama was saying and I feel that it is true. People get help, in a multitude of ways, and that is what he was saying. I don't think that help is always closely linked to help from government tax dollars, but help none the less.

Now, the part about using the fact that successful business owners get "help" to support a tax increase... I don't necessarily agree with that. I tend to be of the opinion that the government needs to spend much more efficiently and even reel in spending to balance the budget rather than just run to the citizens to get more cash. It doesn't matter how much cash you have if you have poor spending habits. More access to cash and poor spending habits just means more wasted purchases, typically.

Don't confuse my defense of his actual statements and what Limbaugh is trying to use that one sentence of a speech to mean that I am also okay with the government raising taxes on the wealthy. I get that giving back, something Obama said in his speech, is important, but don't think a business person would want to give more money in taxes to do that. Seems like there are better ways to do that if he wants to "give back" to other small businesses.

[pghin08]

No, he is not 100% wrong. He viewed the speech from HIS own perspective. Just like YOU viewed it from yours. People opposed to Obama are ALWAYS going to see everything in a certain unfavourable light. Just as those that are willing to give him a chance are going to see the opposite. The point of the thread is LIMBAUGH pulls one line out of the speech (out of context) and goes on the attack. It has been said 1000 times, RUSH LIMBAUGH is a JOKE. He doesn't have a single ounce of credibility. Anyone who listens to him is continually weakening their own credibility.

I just don't see how people don't see through him. The guy makes like $35-40 million a year to fear-mongor. He's not really fighting for the conservative right. He's fighting for his massive paychecks. I don't begrudge him that, he lives in a country where you're free to make as much money as you can. I just never forget why the man gets paid.