Hand guns

[duane1969]

I am a liberal and that is absolute bunk

Yet you argue that the idea that the citizens would play key a role in the defense of their country is absurd.

Anytime I hear someone argue that citizen ownership of guns is unneeded and that the government is the true protector of us it is almost always a liberal. Rarely do conservatives buy into the concept that the government will protect us and that we don't need to be prepared to protect ourselves.

[habsheaven]

You say you get it, and follow it up with a bunch of conservative rhetoric about liberals. Sorry to burst your bubble, but you don't get it.

[Wickabee]

Yet you argue that the idea that the citizens would play key a role in the defense of their country is absurd.

Anytime I hear someone argue that citizen ownership of guns is unneeded and that the government is the true protector of us it is almost always a liberal. Rarely do conservatives buy into the concept that the government will protect us and that we don't need to be prepared to protect ourselves.

I've never said any such thing. I have no problem with gun ownership. Never have, never will (I grew up in a hunting town).

The idea that the citizens could defeat an attacking army is a little absurd. Protecting yourself against violent criminals? Absolutely. But your citizenry doesn't have the experience, training or flat out firepower (even with all your guns) to take out an experienced, trained and unified attack on the ground. I think you'd put up a decent fight, but you'd lose.

[habsheaven]

Wickabee, you are giving a citizen army way too much credit. It would be a massacre of the grandest scale. Duane is living in a fantasy world that a lot of hard line conservatives live in.

[Wickabee]

Wickabee, you are giving a citizen army way too much credit. It would be a massacre of the grandest scale. Duane is living in a fantasy world that a lot of hard line conservatives live in.

No, I have enough faith in Americans to band some militias together and do some damage. I should clarify though, it would end in a massacre. But, they would put up a decent fight at first.

[mrveggieman]

I would have to side with duane. If I'm going to go out I'm going out with a fight. Also I don't rely on my gov't to protect me either. God is my protection but that's for a different discussion.

[MattDMC]

I'm sorry but that video of the guy with the jammed gun blowing his hat off just made me laugh my behind off at how stupid he was.

I have and always will support gun ownership but do agree there needs to be restrictions involved.

IMO there need to be only two stipulations/restriction.
1.) theres no need for anyone to have assault riffles of any kind, hand guns hunting riffles and shot guns are fine but no assault riffles
2.) you can't buy a gun until you have passed some kind of both a standardized testing and a psyche test to show you are both smart enough and up there in the head enough to own and operate a gun.

just my .02 cents

[Wickabee]

I would have to side with duane. If I'm going to go out I'm going out with a fight. Also I don't rely on my gov't to protect me either. God is my protection but that's for a different discussion.

But you're a liberal! You MUST expect the government to protect you. If you don't you can'tbe liberal. At least, that's what I got from Duane's post.

[habsheaven]

Veggie's all over the board. When it comes to guns and abortion he is definitely a conservative.

[mrveggieman]

Actually I consider myself more of the moderate or libertarian flavor.