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    What have they done to help?? That is comical. They may complain about it but they are still bearing the overwhelming majority of this country's taxes and finances. Hate them all you want but how in the world can you say "what have they done."
    Not to mention the amount of the.unforced benevolence they are responsible for.


    I recognize this fully, but there are two things that always weigh on me:

    1. The lack of upward mobility in this country is staggering.

    http://moneyland.time.com/2012/01/05...ty-in-the-u-s/

    2. A tax policy in which it is easier to make money with other money rather than with labor is inherently unstable. Mitt Romney's effective tax rate was 14% because the money he "makes" is derived from money he already has. My effective tax rate is higher because I work for it.

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    1. You're totally pigeonholing wealthy people. I know many who have come up from nothing and have worked extremely hard to do so. You're also assuming that none of them recognize that they need to pay more tax, which is wrong.

    Fair enough, but if we are talking the same Super Rich that DIRECTLY lead to the great recession of 2007-2008, then I will stand by my comments.

    2. You're right. They need to be taxed more. But so does everybody in this country.

    Just let the Bush Tax Cuts expire, I don't mind, sure, I'll have to pay a little more, but as long as the super rich start paying their fair share, I'll be happy.

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    As a broke college student and growing up until about 5 years ago in not a great financial situation, I find what you just said to be completely embarrassing.

    And as a College graduate, I find your comment pointless.

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    What have they done to help?? That is comical. They may complain about it but they are still bearing the overwhelming majority of this country's taxes and finances. Hate them all you want but how in the world can you say "what have they done."
    Not to mention the amount of the.unforced benevolence they are responsible for.

    Oh noes....the poor Rich people and their "burden".

    Let me shed a tear for the same guys that brought us the huge mess that we're in, the same guys that were "bailed out" for being "too big to fail", while regular Americans loss their homes, jobs, livelihoods, EVERYTHING, and were not given anything in return.

    Yes, leave the Super Rich alone.....*Insert Chris Crocker meme*

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    What have they done to help?? That is comical. They may complain about it but they are still bearing the overwhelming majority of this country's taxes and finances. Hate them all you want but how in the world can you say "what have they done."
    Not to mention the amount of the.unforced benevolence they are responsible for.


    What I don't understatnd is how can someone who says they are a preacher and is supposed to follow and spread the word of Jesus who by the way was a champion for the poor and spread a message of non violence can turn around and cheerlead for the ultra wealthy almost attempting to drum up sympathy for them. I'm sorry but I ain't got no love for the ultra rich because they are the ones who destroyed our economy, lead us into to wasteful and uneccessary wars and are trying to lead us into another one that could possibly trigger WW III.
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    so if you are rich you don't care about others?

    equality does not come from accusations, nor stereotyping, nor name calling.

    so the poor must not care about themselves, since they allow themselves to be poor?

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    so if you are rich you don't care about others?

    equality does not come from accusations, nor stereotyping, nor name calling.

    You don't get rich by helping others...

    so the poor must not care about themselves, since they allow themselves to be poor?

    Believe it or not, some people believe this. Romney thinks 47% of the country doesn't care enough about themselves to work for anything.

    That's the problem. As much as the poor complain about the rich, they have a better idea about the life of the rich than the rich do of the poor (generally speaking, of course). People like Mitt Romney saying, basically, if you're poor it's because you don't take responsibility for yourself. That's where the ideas, accusations, stereotypes and name-calling come from. It's not that they're rich that's the problem, it's that they're rich, either forgot what it's like to be poor or never were, and then turn around and tell those who aren't wealthy to work harder. You want to talk stereotyping? How about this idea the rich have that everyone on welfare is a leech? How about the idea that no one with an income of more than $100,000/yr actually works? How about the idea that everyone who votes for Obama just wants a free cell phone? How about the fact that only minorities and those who want handouts would ever vote Democrat?

    Oh, but I guess stereotyping one way is alright, if someone called you a name (after you saved $4.2million because of a guy you hate...)

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    No, I assume they don't care about others and only themselves.


    Meanwhile Obama's giving them millions every year, if you read the article. What are they mad about? Someone call them a name? Awwww

    Obama gives them nothing.

    I hate to say this, well maybe not. Who cares if Obama allienates the super rich.

    What have they done to help?

    Since the top 25% of income earners in America pay over 87% of the taxes that are taken in by the governement I would say that they have done pretty much everything to help. If the government was dependent on the lower 75% of wage earners then the entire concept of America would have gone down the drain a long, long time ago.

    Every cashed welfare check, every paved road, every educated child, every patrolling police officer, every state or county pre-school and every other government provided perk is 87% funded by the top 25% of wage earners.

    All they want is lower taxes and bigger profits.

    So you are in support of earning less money and paying more in taxes? Put your money where your mouth is and donate an additional 25% of your income on your next tax return. My guess is that you would never consider doing that because like most leftist you just want to have a say in how other people's money is taken from them and spent, you want your money left alone. when the subject of discussion becomes increasing your taxes by 15-20% you will most definitely be singing a much different tune.

    They truly are the most "entitled" Americans.....since they have so much money, which in return brings them a lot of power, they feel they can do whatever they w t.

    You are correct. They are truly entitled to what they have worked and earned. Unlike that other entitled group that have little to no right to what they get.

    Show NO MERCY.....these guys will NOT call our bluff, they have no where to go.

    That is what the French thought. It is naive to think that other countries with economic hardships will not welcome the rich with open arms in exchange for less taxes. Countries with few milionaires will gladly accept a tax rate of 10% of millions of dollars and the wealthy will gladly change their residence to a poor country in exchange for 20-30% less in taxation.

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    Obama gives them nothing.

    You might want to read that article and check out who benefited most under Obama...

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    You don't get rich by helping others...

    I have 2 questions/thoughts concerning this statement.

    1. Where is it written that if you are rich that you are obligated to help others and who decided that if you are rich and you don't help others that it makes you a bad person? When did it become an expectation that the wealthy have to help others?

    The last time I checked, charity is not something that is demanded or taken from someone.

    2. Show me someone who earns over $1 million a year and I will virtually guarantee that they do much more than you or I do to help others. The truly wealthy are the largest donators to charities and benefit programs as well as the primary group of people who start charitable organizations. I have no proof to back it up but I will venture a guesstimate that over 90% of the charities that are currently aimed at helping the poor were started by someone who would be labeled wealthy by you.
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    You might want to read that article and check out who benefited most under Obama...

    Obama gave them nothing. The taxpayers of America gave it to them, Obama just took credit for it. In fact, when you consider that 87% of taxes are paid by the top 25% of wage earners, they essentially got back their own money.

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