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    most of the people who vote have no idea anyways- usually just vote blind as in just rep or dem instead of the best candidate-or should I say the "least worse."
    Also, most people who vote just take what the media says and is more of a popularity vote. I almost guarantee, if Justin Bieber said he was running, with nothing in place or ideas of what to do, half would probably just vote for him anyways!

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    a "pure democracy" would have us at polling stations every day of the rest of our lives.. instead we have a congress. I again do not get the premise of your point here. Directly voting for one office would cause what exactly....?


    I'm sure you already known that the Constitution allows states to sets voting requirements. If we did away with the electoral college, what would prevent a state that wanted more influence in the election from dropping its voting age to 17, 16, 15...?

    What would happen to national elections? Candidates would only campaign in the most populous areas, because they can reach the most voters there.

    The smaller states would essentially have no say in the elections. It would be about appealing only to the larger states. The EC prevents candidates with only regional appeal from winning. Say someone carries the overwhelming majority of votes in the northeastern US and ends up taking the overall popular vote because of it? How are the people in Alabama and Nevada and Michigan going to feel about a president that they didn't really have much of a say in electing? What if someone takes 75% of Texas and California?

    The EC is confusing and seemingly-pointless, but that is only because it is mostly misunderstood.

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    most of the people who vote have no idea anyways- usually just vote blind as in just rep or dem instead of the best candidate-or should I say the "least worse."
    Also, most people who vote just take what the media says and is more of a popularity vote. I almost guarantee, if Justin Bieber said he was running, with nothing in place or ideas of what to do, half would probably just vote for him anyways!

    Well he's not american... but I think that's pretty cynical. I think we as a country can be mature enough to vote for a deserving candidate and not treat it like American idol
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    I'm sure you already known that the Constitution allows states to sets voting requirements. If we did away with the electoral college, what would prevent a state that wanted more influence in the election from dropping its voting age to 17, 16, 15...?

    What would happen to national elections? Candidates would only campaign in the most populous areas, because they can reach the most voters there.

    The smaller states would essentially have no say in the elections. It would be about appealing only to the larger states. The EC prevents candidates with only regional appeal from winning. Say someone carries the overwhelming majority of votes in the northeastern US and ends up taking the overall popular vote because of it? How are the people in Alabama and Nevada and Michigan going to feel about a president that they didn't really have much of a say in electing? What if someone takes 75% of Texas and California?

    The EC is confusing and seemingly-pointless, but that is only because it is mostly misunderstood.

    I rebutted this already.. how would the people of michigan, alabama, nevada... be disenfranchised in any way? We already have a system that makes Ohio, Florida, Virginia, Wisconsin, etc etc far more important than Alabama, Montana, Hawaii, etc etc.. are you suggesting this is ok? When was the last time you remember a political candidate holding a rally in down town Selma? Or a campaign event in Honolulu? lol

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    I would be interested in hearing about a plan to scrap the electorial college. There would be less incentive for leaders in swing/republican states to practice voter supression or intimidation. Every vote would indeed count equally. We also would have no more debacles like GWB stealing the 2000 and 2004 elections.
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    I would be interested in hearing about a plan to scrap the electorial college. There would be less incentive for leaders in swing/republican states to practice voter supression or intimidation. Every vote would indeed count equally. We also would have no more debacles like GWB stealing the 2000 and 2004 elections.

    or Harrison, Q Adams, and others. Look up the election of 1824.. that will make you go "WOW"

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    or Harrison, Q Adams, and others. Look up the election of 1824.. that will make you go "WOW"

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_...election,_1824

    Pretty interesting.

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    they called it the corrupt bargain. When Jackson kicked his (rymes with bass) in 1828.. he literally held a giant keg party on the lawn of the white house.. think it lasted 3 days lol

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    I rebutted this already.. how would the people of michigan, alabama, nevada... be disenfranchised in any way? We already have a system that makes Ohio, Florida, Virginia, Wisconsin, etc etc far more important than Alabama, Montana, Hawaii, etc etc.. are you suggesting this is ok? When was the last time you remember a political candidate holding a rally in down town Selma? Or a campaign event in Honolulu? lol

    I am ok with the present system. More Alabamians are red, and Alabama votes red. More Californians are blue, and the state votes blue. Nothing wrong with that. The state's populous is fairly represented in the national election. Under you plan, a candidate can completely ignore my entire state, because the large population centers are all that matter. Middle America is not fairly represented in the election.

    Romney visited Mobile not too long ago. Michelle Obama had an event in Birmingham recently also.

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    If you were to get rid of the electoral college, what would you replace it with to ensure that everyone's vote matters?

    Democracy?

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