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Thread: Local Communities Taking Stand Against Feds; Introducing 2nd Amendment Preservation A
  
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04-02-2013, 02:42 PM #11

my kids are grown and gone, nobody choked or was shot
but unlike some people, at least you are not stereotyping all of us together
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04-02-2013, 03:25 PM #12
[QUOTE=Wickabee;12632185][QUOTE=shrewsbury;12632140]
that the toy encapsulated in chocolate is more dangerous than the bullet being fired from a gun.
Really?
The whole reason they're illegal in the US is idiot parents. Not that we don't have our share, but ours can at least make sure their kids don't eat so many toys (that are not "slapped in, but in a little container inside the hollow egg) that the government steps in.
Seriously, you won't parent you kids and everyone gets a gun?
I'm amazed there's any of you left. With kids that stupid and priorities that far out of whack your country shouldn't exist.
Thats right! every 12 year old gets a gun!
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04-02-2013, 03:44 PM #13
Ok, let's just take a look at your Constitution.........the fact that it has been amended, added to or changed 27 times in its history means SOMETHING, no??? The 18th Amendment (prohibition) was repealed by the 21st, for example..........just because its in the Constitution doesn't mean it has to be eternal, just because the Founding Fathers wanted to make sure everyone had a musket in case the British came a'calling again doesn't mean it's ok for Tom, Dick, Harry or especially Eddy to be packing a high-capacity murder-death-kill machine 200+ years later...........
You can scream "2nd Amendment" at me all you want but y'all have a gun-death rate of 10.2 per 100,000 people, and twenty miles to the north, across an imaginary made-up line with a bunch of different gun laws, the death rate is 2.13 per 100,000
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04-02-2013, 05:12 PM #14

10 times more people equals ten times more likely to happen, and we are only 5 times.
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04-02-2013, 05:31 PM #15
Really??? Because you have more people crammed into your cities you have 5 times more of an excuse to blow them away?????
Am I understanding that correctly? And wouldn't that be a Top 5 reason to take your guns away??
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04-02-2013, 05:42 PM #16
...I thought I was.But you're right. I'm not saying you're all like that, just enough of you that the government had to step in and regulate chocolate treats. The threats posed by unregulated guns and unregulated chocolate, I shouldn't have to tell you, are astounding. Yet here, as a nation, you are.
Not quite what I was saying. See, I have no problem with a responsible parent giving a child of his own whom he deems responsible enough his own gun to be stored safely along with all the others and used properly and safely like all the others. It's essentially dad's gun, he's just giving the 12 year old the "naming rights" so to speak. It's not even that it's a right to own a gun in the US unless found to be untrustworthy in properly and safely owning a weapon. It's that it's an almost completely unregulated industry. Forget the average gun owner for a minute, let's start by clamping down on guns shops. Give the ATF actual powers and numbers to fight the problem and regulate the industry. It's not brain surgery, it's common &^$%$#%$# sense.After that, let's talk about keeping track of the guns. Not even controlling them so much as knowing what there is and where it is. Register guns on the government dime so you're not taxing people twice on the issue. If it's a right, whatever, I can deal with that. It just seems to me that enough people die due to guns that it's worth at least regulating the industry. It's true so many products exist that, while they have other intents, are just as dangerous. I don't want to tell good people they can't own guns. I just want some oversight from some entity. The government is the entity we look to in such situations, so that's where I want it to come from.The second amendment says you're allowed to own guns, it doesn't say anything about the government not being allowed to know about it.
I'm just floored by a country that regulates chocolate treats harder than it does deadly weapons. Someone explain how that's good prioritization.
Well, prohibition is a good example of an amendment not working and the constitution being just fine the way it was. However, I see your point.
That's why I'm also in favour of simply changing the constitution to actually say what you want it to say, if enough people want it to say that. Guns will never be taken away from the US citizen. When it comes down to it, it's easier to just kill them. All this is just false argumentation in both directions.
Explain Japan.
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04-02-2013, 05:42 PM #17
It baffles me as well.
I'm the type that believes the federal government has the ultimate say, the states however believe they are their own countries and screw the "big bad government".
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04-02-2013, 05:50 PM #18

wickabee, look at the history of Japan as a nation and America as a nation, completely different, culture plays a huge role in this.
sluggo, more people means less to go around, and it is the problem more so than guns.
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04-02-2013, 06:27 PM #19
More people is a cop out. Yes society is the problem and society can't handle it. That's when government steps in.
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04-02-2013, 06:47 PM #20

everything that isn't in agreement with you is a cop out.
why did Europeans come to the America's?
they used up their resources and battle over land was prominent, why? too many people
What happened when the the colonies were getting crowded?
battle over land again?
heck, how did Canada get formed?
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