Kentucky county removing Ten Commandments from schools

[JustAlex]

Congress=government? I fail to see this logic.

You're kidding, right?

I also fail to see how allowing a poster containing the 10 commandments is the same as "make(ing) a law respecting the establishment of religion". The constitution says what it means, and just because you were taught that you had the freedom of religion doesn't mean that it is illegal for anything government related to have religious symbols.

Do you know what separation of church and state is?

And I don't mean to be patronizing, but you're telling me you don't know that congress is government.....and you seem to not understand what the Establishment Clause means.

The Establishment Clause has been interpreted to prohibit the following:

#1 the establishment of a national religion by Congress.....YES, Congress = Government

#2 the preference by the U.S. government of one religion over another.


The school is violating #2, since they are an extension of the government, and no, I'm not going to explain this to you, because it's basic knowledge......they have put a preference of one religion over another.

BTW, SCOTUS has ALREADY ruled on this:

In its landmark 1980 decision in Stone v. Graham striking down a Kentucky law requiring that a copy of the Ten Commandments be posted in every public school classroom, the Court said:


"The pre-eminent purpose for posting the Ten Commandments on schoolroom walls is plainly religious in nature. The Ten Commandments are undeniably a sacred text in the Jewish and Christian faiths, and no legislative recitation of a supposed secular purpose can blind us to that fact. The Commandments do not confine themselves to arguably secular matters, such as honoring one's parents, killing or murder, adultery, stealing, false witness, and covetousness. Rather, the first part of the Commandments concerns the religious duties of believers: worshipping the Lord God alone, avoiding idolatry, not using the Lord's name in vain, and observing the Sabbath Day."

^It's all there, game, set, match.

/Thread.

[Wickabee]

Atheists are so annoying. Everything is about religion and God with them. I wish they could be more secular, but they just can't seem to. They feel a need to spread the word of their beliefs. Sad.

[yankeesfan1324]

You're kidding, right?

No, I'm not. Considering there is a very specific thing called congress, I really doubt they would use the word congress when not describing congress.

Do you know what separation of church and state is?

And I don't mean to be patronizing, but you're telling me you don't know that congress is government.....and you seem to not understand what the Establishment Clause means.

The Establishment Clause has been interpreted to prohibit the following:

#1 the establishment of a national religion by Congress.....YES, Congress = Government

#2 the preference by the U.S. government of one religion over another.


The school is violating #2, since they are an extension of the government, and no, I'm not going to explain this to you, because it's basic knowledge......they have put a preference of one religion over another.

They aren't congress. A school teacher is not a congressman. And, like I said before, they can not pass laws establishing an official religion, that doesn't mean that they can't hang things containing religious material.

BTW, SCOTUS has ALREADY ruled on this:

In its landmark 1980 decision in Stone v. Graham striking down a Kentucky law requiring that a copy of the Ten Commandments be posted in every public school classroom, the Court said:


"The pre-eminent purpose for posting the Ten Commandments on schoolroom walls is plainly religious in nature. The Ten Commandments are undeniably a sacred text in the Jewish and Christian faiths, and no legislative recitation of a supposed secular purpose can blind us to that fact. The Commandments do not confine themselves to arguably secular matters, such as honoring one's parents, killing or murder, adultery, stealing, false witness, and covetousness. Rather, the first part of the Commandments concerns the religious duties of believers: worshipping the Lord God alone, avoiding idolatry, not using the Lord's name in vain, and observing the Sabbath Day."

^It's all there, game, set, match.

/Thread.

Did you even read my post? The case you described is unconstitutional because they are passing a law requiring the 10 commandments to be displayed. Requiring something is not the same as doing it voluntarily.

[Wickabee]

Give up man. You're talking to a guy who believes in freedom as long as he agrees with it.

In other words, a republican.

[shrewsbury]

In other words, a republican.

talk about stereotyping and labeling

[Wickabee]

Who me?
*innocent whistle*


Do I apologize to alex or Republicans?

[deansayso]

Who me?
*innocent whistle*


Do I apologize to alex or Republicans?

Republicans for claiming that alex belongs with them...

[shrewsbury]

now now, we need to play nice

[deansayso]

I know...Alex - You bring up a good point...just ask the board if you can put up the satanic commandments and I'm sure they would be more than happy to take down the 10 and not have either up..

[Wickabee]

I know...Alex - You bring up a good point...just ask the board if you can put up the satanic commandments and I'm sure they would be more than happy to take down the 10 and not have either up..

Actually, since the Ten Commandments has historical value beyond its religious value, and the Satanic Commandments hold no historical value except within that religion, that should actually be worse than the Ten Commandments, since the only value it holds is religious.

So, that puts him arguing with himself.