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    2 championships is a nice feat not winning alot but nice.I want to see the true fans that were there for Rony Seikaly,Sherman Douglas,Jim Sunvold,Glen Rice

    You know....some fans may not know those guys cuz they played in the early to mid 90s.

    I myself started watching the heat in 1996 but I was only 9 years old.

    Anyways....the Heat are the most successful basketball franchise in the last 8 years, winning 3 World Championships.

    I would say that YEAH, that's winning a lot.

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    I have a couple of questions to ask you.

    What team are you a fan of?
    And why do you think the refs obviously helped the heat?

    Honestly, if you're watching this in REAL TIME, from the refs point of view with the heat bodies covering the best viewpoint of the ball and the play, it's extremely difficult to see that it was a foul. In those circumstances, the refs wouldn't want to blow the whistle if it might be a foul, like 50-50. Even so, does one missed call really make them "purposely" helping the heat. That's absolutely ridiculous, and even if I wasn't a heat fan, one missed call DOES NOT mean they're "paid off" or whatnot. Do the calls that the refs missed in favor of the spurs mean they were paid off as well?

    LOL. Really??? No one has said the Spurs didnt make mistakes...I mentioned that in my last post. It's clear you're a Heat fan so your obviously biased. I just hate it when refs help decide the income in any sport. Just taints the accomplishments.


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    I just said this missed the call. I never said it was a conspiracy against the Spurs. It's just dissapointing that the refs would miss a call like that. I would think basketball fans would want the game call correctly. Even if that is called it doesn't mean the Spurs would win. They may miss a FT like they did earlier. What I'm saying is that I want the game called correctly. I don't think that is a crime.

    In response to your questions I'm a Celtics fan and didnt care who won. I don't think the refs helped the Heat throughout the series. I just feel like they refs made questionable calls in the last minute of that game. If they would have made the same mistakes in the favor of the Spurs I would be disappointed. I want the game outcome decided by the players. I would think that's what everyone wants.

    I have a couple of questions to ask you.

    What team are you a fan of?
    And why do you think the refs obviously helped the heat?

    Honestly, if you're watching this in REAL TIME, from the refs point of view with the heat bodies covering the best viewpoint of the ball and the play, it's extremely difficult to see that it was a foul. In those circumstances, the refs wouldn't want to blow the whistle if it might be a foul, like 50-50. Even so, does one missed call really make them "purposely" helping the heat. That's absolutely ridiculous, and even if I wasn't a heat fan, one missed call DOES NOT mean they're "paid off" or whatnot. Do the calls that the refs missed in favor of the spurs mean they were paid off as well?


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    I would agree. Except on one fact, which is that it is near impossible to have every call correct. The refs are human, in case people didnt notice, and do make mistakes. At the end of the day, they're doing their best to call this game, and a call as difficult as manu's drive certainly didn't help the critics.

    However, given that the spurs had SEVERAL opportunities to win the game, I don't believe that San Antonio was robbed of a championship, as some may say.

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    They did have chances such as missed free throws and poorly boxing out. I don't think they were robbed but even despite all those mess ups they still had a chance to win. The refs had two chances to call fouls. The Manu drive and the Green three pointer. I feel as if the Manu drive was much more clear. If they call those does in mean the Spurs win? No, but it could have made a big difference. I just feel as if the refs tainted that game some. The other games they didnt affect the outcome and that's what all fans want.

    I would agree. Except on one fact, which is that it is near impossible to have every call correct. The refs are human, in case people didnt notice, and do make mistakes. At the end of the day, they're doing their best to call this game, and a call as difficult as manu's drive certainly didn't help the critics.

    However, given that the spurs had SEVERAL opportunities to win the game, I don't believe that San Antonio was robbed of a championship, as some may say.


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    Could have, and that's a big thing. They had plenty of chances to win, it just happened to be that the heat capitalized on their opportunity and made more plays down the stretch. We can say that the spurs had a couple of no-calls unluckily going against them, and that the refs erred on the side of caution, yet it shouldn't take away from the fact that it was a pretty decently called game, and that the heat deserved this championship.

    There will always be missed calls, and just because one call didn't necessarily seem like the "right one" after watching it in slow-motion with an overhead camera doesn't mean one team doesnt deserve a championship.

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    Like I said before Spurs had there chances but I don't like to see refs have any effect on the outcome of a game. Especially one of that importance. I will say I didn't need instance replay to see that was a foul on the Manu drive. Even live I was astonished they didn't call it.

    I'm sure if that happened to the heat their fans would complain like I have seen some Spur fans complain. Many heat fans said they whole series was called against them.

    Could have, and that's a big thing. They had plenty of chances to win, it just happened to be that the heat capitalized on their opportunity and made more plays down the stretch. We can say that the spurs had a couple of no-calls unluckily going against them, and that the refs erred on the side of caution, yet it shouldn't take away from the fact that it was a pretty decently called game, and that the heat deserved this championship.

    There will always be missed calls, and just because one call didn't necessarily seem like the "right one" after watching it in slow-motion with an overhead camera doesn't mean one team doesnt deserve a championship.


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    Isn't that close to what some spurs fans are saying, that every call has been for the heat? Again, the main difference between you and the refs is that the refs are first off, under extreme amounts of pressure, and second, they don't have an overhead camera looking at the play, making sure they get the best angle. They have to run down the court just like the players and see if they can get a good look on the play. I don't see why one no-call is of that importance to you, but if you don't agree that was an extremely hard play to call for the refs angle, I can't continue debating this with you.

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    Of course fans of each team are going to be bias and think everything goes against their team. That's the way it goes with just fans. It's pretty sad that fans can be so biased. When fans of a team i like act like that i find it embrassing.

    Refs make that call all the time (Manu drive) and isn't a difficult call to make. I saw it live and from a much further difference and I said that has to be a foul. The refs normally have a much better angle then people watching from the overhead angle at a much further distance. There is also three refs. I can understand if one missed it. Also the no call on the Green three pointer is questionable. I'm certain they should have called one or the other if not both. I'm sure if that was Lebron,Wade or another Heat player you would be singing a different tune.





    Isn't that close to what some spurs fans are saying, that every call has been for the heat? Again, the main difference between you and the refs is that the refs are first off, under extreme amounts of pressure, and second, they don't have an overhead camera looking at the play, making sure they get the best angle. They have to run down the court just like the players and see if they can get a good look on the play. I don't see why one no-call is of that importance to you, but if you don't agree that was an extremely hard play to call for the refs angle, I can't continue debating this with you.


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    Okay, about the manu play. First off, what you see is that there was contact, and that automatically justifies that there should have been a foul. However, what you fail to see is that there was a travel on the play, and what the refs have to do is see which one came first. THIS IS A SUPER TOUGH CALL. Honestly, both the spurs and heat probably committed either a foul or a travel on that play. Let's see what the refs could do in that scenario (assuming they can do all of this in a split second). No call and the spurs fans are pissed off that they didnt get the call. Call a foul and the heat fans are pissed off because there was a travel.

    Sure, there were missed calls, I'll give you that. But overall, it was a good officiated game. Are you really calling a conspiracy on this. That's absolutely ridiculous. Saying the NBA is rigged because of this is pathetic. Let's even take a look at Bosh's play. Bosh clearly got all ball, but pushed him down low and probably didnt allow him space to land. That's a foul. However, if you're saying the nba is rigging this for the heat, why didnt the refs bail lebron out? On his two turnovers, lets just look at danny green's fastbreak d on lebron. Why didn't they just call a foul? That would have bailed them out.

    Overall, it was a great game by the two best teams.

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