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    no one wants obamacare and hes starting to realize that.

    I disagree, I think there are PLENTY of people who want it, they just can't afford it.
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    I still don't get why you care now and not any previous point in history.

    Oh, right, obamacare. Carry on you crusade.

    Your marijuana example is not a relevant comparison.

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    Your marijuana example is not a relevant comparison.

    Oh so you think he's the first. Okay.

    And your crusade against obamacare including being angry over this, but not other times he's donethe same tthing, is relevant. He decided what laws will be upheld where. How is it different? Because it passed SCOTUS?

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    Obamacare deserves to be put out of its misery, it is a complete and utter failure and does nothing to address the real problems with Healthcare, which is the ridiculous costs.

    Your constant use of "the other guy did it too" argument to rationalize the President's illegal behavior is getting old and stale.
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    Another theory, He wants the work force (public) to become a part time employment system requiring gov' supplemental income. Now He knows Obamacare is going to cost to much. I just hope people do not become dependent on the government to the point of no return.

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    I don't go for any conspiracy, I think Obamacare is like many other great ideas, looks really good on paper, but fails in applications. That's why most design engineers don't do field work, they have field engineers, who, when implementing the original design, have to change things to fit the real world application and after the work is done submit their "as built" print design.

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    I don't go for any conspiracy, I think Obamacare is like many other great ideas, looks really good on paper, but fails in applications. That's why most design engineers don't do field work, they have field engineers, who, when implementing the original design, have to change things to fit the real world application and after the work is done submit their "as built" print design.

    It's ludicrous to think that a bunch of suits in Washington D.C. can manage and regulate a marketplace more efficiently than hundreds of millions of people making individual buying decisions for services provided by private companies.

    Can you imagine if the government regulated the selling of baseball cards the same way they regulate Healthcare?

    Since it is unfair that some people cannot afford baseball cards, the government would pass the Emergency Baseball Card Labor Act that requires card companies to give free cards to people that come to their business that cannot afford to pay for the cards.

    Eventually, cards would cost 10 times as much as they were supposed to since the big card companies would be required to give out free cards while only charging .30 to .50 on the dollar for Old and Poorer collectors,. To compensate, they would vastly overcharge the young and middle class. "Non-profit" card companies would pop up that paid huge salaries to executives while building fancy, high-priced facilities. The government would ban the reimportation of baseball cards from other countries to allow the big card companies to keep prices high. The government would allow card companies to hide how much they charge for the cards and would submit a bill to the consumer after the cards were purchased. Prices would vary dramatically depending on the type of government program used.

    The young and middle class would rebel and refuse to pay the exorbitant price for cards, so the government would pass a law that requires all people to buy baseball cards. Since baseball cards are sold over state lines, the government claimed it could regulate them, which they believed allowed them to require all citizens to buy them. When it was challenged as unconstitutional, the court would agree, but also say that the government can collect a "baseball card tax" that will be used to offset the cost of providing a way for everyone to get baseball cards.

    No matter how hard the government tried, the costs for baseball cards continued to rise. Eventually, small card dealers opted out of the government system and refused to deal with any collectors involved with the government program. Amazingly, the price charged to private collectors outside of the government system was dramatically lower and more and more collectors and dealers started following this process.

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    yawn
    This feigned anger is getting really boring. You hate Obamacare, we get it. Your assertion that it's about him picking and choosing laws falls apart because you don't care that he did the same thing with marijuana. If you're against the principle, be consistent.

    Or at least come up with something new to whine about. You crusade against health care. We get it.

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    I don't have a problem with healthcare, it is the twisted, inefficient, corrupt system that the government has created that I despise.

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    I don't have a problem with healthcare, it is the twisted, inefficient, corrupt system that the government has created that I despise.

    Ha!
    It's the guy who got the credit for it you're against.


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