Polarization in the US?

[Wickabee]

Cap and trade, change our energy sources, mass genocide............(just kidding on the last one , I think;).

Changing our resources! That will cost a few people a bunch of money! Just to create cleaner burning fuels for our earth, and a new economy base for jobs and independance from foreign oil? Don't they look at the big picture?

Yes the environment will be better off. Yes a new energy source wouldn't reduce the number of jobs, just change what they are. Yes we wouldn't have to depends on quasi-enemies for our economies. But a few very wealthy people will lose large amounts of income! A few wealthy people will have to live on the wealth they already have, or find a new way to make more money. But what new money can you make when the same amount of people need the same amount of fuel but it comes from a non finite source? Come on! I bet they don't even realize the kickbacks government workers and elected officials would stop getting for, like, a month!

Come on people, have you put no thought into this? Foreign oil is good! Send your money to Saudi Arabia!

[sanfran22]

Oh, you've proven that much, Republican member #3651834. Your posts are nothing but party rhetoric thought up by others. My only question is if they have to pay you for the campaign work or not.

Technically I'm not a Republican, I'm a conservative. I will, however, fight the mindless leftists on every occasion.

[Wickabee]

I look at plenty of issues. Then I look at the overreaction from the left. You can't govern with your heart and empathy. It get us into all kinds of "but we had the best intentions" scenarios. You have to sit back and think about things. That's why I'm a conservative. Sometimes hard decisions need to be made.
But instead we have paranoia, central planning, and a "living constitution" from the left. It doesn't work, wasn't intended this way, and it's why we are having the problems we are.........

You look at issues, then you look at the left and repeat why the right thinks they're wrong. Nothing bugs me more than a poster who says nothing I can't read on FOX or in HuffPost for myself. These people seem incapable of any individual thought and I assume half call Obama and the other half call Gingrich before they pee.

My only question is how you got Newt's number.

[sanfran22]

Changing our resources! That will cost a few people a bunch of money! Just to create cleaner burning fuels for our earth, and a new economy base for jobs and independance from foreign oil? Don't they look at the big picture?

Yes the environment will be better off. Yes a new energy source wouldn't reduce the number of jobs, just change what they are. Yes we wouldn't have to depends on quasi-enemies for our economies. But a few very wealthy people will lose large amounts of income! A few wealthy people will have to live on the wealth they already have, or find a new way to make more money. But what new money can you make when the same amount of people need the same amount of fuel but it comes from a non finite source? Come on! I bet they don't even realize the kickbacks government workers and elected officials would stop getting for, like, a month!

Come on people, have you put no thought into this? Foreign oil is good! Send your money to Saudi Arabia!

Or we can just tax coal out of existence, put crazy regulations on everything, Scream about fracking, and block oil pipelines.... I'm all for drilling here at home, are you?

[Wickabee]

Technically I'm not a Republican, I'm a conservative. I will, however, fight the mindless leftists on every occasion.

Because Republicans tell you too. And yes, I know they have you all convinced you're not republicans, but conservatives. It sounds more legitimate when you separate yourself from the party, but I don't buy it for a second. You've proven to be one and the same with the party. If I want to know Generic Republican's take on things, I'll come to you.

[Wickabee]

Or we can just tax coal out of existence, put crazy regulations on everything, Scream about fracking, and block oil pipelines.... I'm all for drilling here at home, are you?

Actually yes I am. Last election I voted for the party who is not against a massive pipeline going through the province and is all for fracking in province. I'm good with it too, though I do have stipulations that start with "don't destroy the whole place" and get more specific from there.

So I guess I'm totally for it and voted as such. Doesn't mean I can't be in favour of something better and it doesn't mean I have to listen to politicallybiased gibberish from a person who has no problem telling the world he has no idea what he's talking about, but will repeat Rush Limbaugh ad nauseum anyway.

And I know it must blow you mind that not everyone falls entirely left or entirely right. It must be mind blowing to meet someone who wants better fuels, but voted for jobs now. It must absolutely shatter your world that someone exists who isn't solely worried about his/her party and the votes they can get. Well I do exist, and there's more of us, a whole bunch on this board even.

[pwaldo]

Cap and trade, change our energy sources, mass genocide............(just kidding on the last one , I think;).

Forgive me if I don't take credibility in your solutions but I was hoping the people in the thread who kept saying there were so many solutions could actually say what they are. If the task is too daunting to list the many solutions how about just one?

And does everyone in the United States have to agree on the problem or is it that the world must agree on it? Never really had that one cleared up either.

[Wickabee]

Hey where'd he go?

[habsheaven]

Forgive me if I don't take credibility in your solutions but I was hoping the people in the thread who kept saying there were so many solutions could actually say what they are. If the task is too daunting to list the many solutions how about just one?

And does everyone in the United States have to agree on the problem or is it that the world must agree on it? Never really had that one cleared up either.

The solutions I am speaking of all center around eliminating the need/use of fossil fuels. They range from; better urban planning, to better recycling, to eating less meat, to investing in cleaner energy sources, to more strenuous emission standards in industry, to investing more in research and development, etc, etc. They are all steps in the right direction as opposed to denying the problem and chugging along on the wrong path. I believe in my first post on the issue I already stated governments, as in governments throughout the world, not just the US.

[Wickabee]

The solutions I am speaking of all center around eliminating the need/use of fossil fuels. They range from; better urban planning, to better recycling, to eating less meat, to investing in cleaner energy sources, to more strenuous emission standards in industry, to investing more in research and development, etc, etc. They are all steps in the right direction as opposed to denying the problem and chugging along on the wrong path. I believe in my first post on the issue I already stated governments, as in governments throughout the world, not just the US.

He's looking for a one-step solve-all, not actual solutions.