Hobby Lobby Wins!

[mrveggieman]

Answer the question.
http://napavalleyregister.com/news/o...a4bcf887a.html

A privilege. What does that have to do with the price of tea in china?

[sanfran22]

A privilege. What does that have to do with the price of tea in china?

Do you think healthcare from your employer is a right? Any certain type of care?

[mrveggieman]

Do you think healthcare from your employer is a right? Any certain type of care?

If the law says so.

[Wickabee]

Why don't they have a choice? Why aren't companies knocking at the door?
I suppose it is the "man" holding them down, can't be their fault in any way, shape, or form.

If you didn't prepare, you go with what you got, HOPE people MAY help out, but don't expect it.

No matter what age, race, or social-economic status you are, it is never to late to turn things around.

If "the man" is the idea that not everyone has had what you had, then yes.

That last sentence is quite romantic, but incredibly naive and thoughtless (as romantic notions usually are)

[sanfran22]

If the law says so.

Ok, so you are good with anything as long as the law says so? What if the creator of said law gave away 1400 or so different types of exemptions to his buddies?
Point is. If having a job is a privilege, then having healthcare should be a perk of the job. If the employer is paying a portion of the bill, they should be able to offer what they chose. Not be ramrodded into whatever an unelected bureaucrat deems necessary at that particular time.
You lefties all whine about the businesses leaving this country to go overseas, but you want to constantly add cost after cost after cost to the price of doing business. You all wonder why businesses are bailing.

[Star_Cards]

Ok, so you are good with anything as long as the law says so? What if the creator of said law gave away 1400 or so different types of exemptions to his buddies?
Point is. If having a job is a privilege, then having healthcare should be a perk of the job. If the employer is paying a portion of the bill, they should be able to offer what they chose. Not be ramrodded into whatever an unelected bureaucrat deems necessary at that particular time.
You lefties all whine about the businesses leaving this country to go overseas, but you want to constantly add cost after cost after cost to the price of doing business. You all wonder why businesses are bailing.

I'm not but you are speaking about this ruling based off of your disapproval of the main law. You're tying the two completely different debates together. I'd agree with a ruling saying companies aren't forced to provide health care for employees but would still disagree that one should be able to opt out of a part of the law due to religious belief.

Saying the ruling is wrong isn't the same thing as saying companies should have to provide healthcare. The problem is that it's a law right now. I'd actually agree with HL had they fought the entire law rather than just wanting to opt out of providing certain birth control.

[Star_Cards]

Is it a right or a privilege to have a job?

I don't think it's a right or a privilege.

[sanfran22]

I'm not but you are speaking about this ruling based off of your disapproval of the main law. You're tying the two completely different debates together. I'd agree with a ruling saying companies aren't forced to provide health care for employees but would still disagree that one should be able to opt out of a part of the law due to religious belief.

Saying the ruling is wrong isn't the same thing as saying companies should have to provide healthcare. The problem is that it's a law right now. I'd actually agree with HL had they fought the entire law rather than just wanting to opt out of providing certain birth control.

The whole problem with that argument to me is that it's a law only if the president deems it to be. If you are one of his cronies, it, or part of it, doesn't apply to you. It is either a law or it isn't.

[GroundSupport]

If the law says so.

I love how you can use this arguement, but support the man who picks and chooses to enforce whichever laws he pleases.

[mrveggieman]

I love how you can use this arguement, but support the man who picks and chooses to enforce whichever laws he pleases.

I'm sorry but I never supported GWB. Please get your facts straight. Thanks.