Where is everyone?

[huskies3]

As for trading, I find it's become almost impossible. Easier to just buy and sell unless you find the right person to deal with.

Here is an exchange I recently had:

Me: kinda hard because most of the stuff you have in your bucket is PC. I am not left with a lot to choose from
Him: Maybe have a look at my tradelist (in sig)...19 pages of traders

Can I please look through your list of thousands of cards?

[Yzerfan]

Here is an exchange I recently had:

Me: kinda hard because most of the stuff you have in your bucket is PC. I am not left with a lot to choose from
Him: Maybe have a look at my tradelist (in sig)...19 pages of traders

Can I please look through your list of thousands of cards?

I'd rather look at the trade list...especially with some of the buckets I have seen. I barely even look at them anymore, unless they are organized and everything is labeled.

[joshpackham]

I find tradelist is way easier so I can search by using CTRL F, just my thoughts

[geschrocks33]

I use a tradelist at this point, and prefer to look at tradelists because searching through buckets can get lengthy and annoying if they have 27 different folders with 6 cards in each of them.

Also as mentioned above me, I use the CTRL F feature, and works wonders when searching through tradelists

[icefields]

27 different folders with 6 cards in each of them.

+1

[canucksfan007]

It is still fairly easy to get some good trades. As long as you make it clear what you have available and what you want. You won't have too much success if you leave the other member trying to guess what you have available or what you may or may not be willing to trade. Keep it simple and state up front whether you go off of FREEBAY selling prices or if you are a real trader.

LoL .... the "real" trader comment from a loyal beckett cult follower.

I agree with most of what your saying .... state what you have and what you expect to get in return ...

But in my opinion .... the "REAL" traders here understand how the market has become ..... the "REAL" traders here understand how to use a tool that is 100% up to date with current market activities .... and the "REAL" traders here understand how to gauge prices for themselves, and not let the good book dictate what their cards are worth.

The good people at beckett have clearly stopped caring about whats being printed in their magazine for some time now, and shown they use formulas to generate certain prices on cards that reappear year after year.

Anyone that has any sort of understanding about the hobby today deals with cash values for everything above $20.

[Yzerfan]

LoL .... the "real" trader comment from a loyal beckett cult follower.

I agree with most of what your saying .... state what you have and what you expect to get in return ...

But in my opinion .... the "REAL" traders here understand how the market has become ..... the "REAL" traders here understand how to use a tool that is 100% up to date with current market activities .... and the "REAL" traders here understand how to gauge prices for themselves, and not let the good book dictate what their cards are worth.

The good people at beckett have clearly stopped caring about whats being printed in their magazine for some time now, and shown they use formulas to generate certain prices on cards that reappear year after year.

Anyone that has any sort of understanding about the hobby today deals with cash values for everything above $20.

Exactly. I only use beckett for low end stuff. I'm not trading a patch that only books for $25.00 but sells for $20.00 for a 20 year old parallel that books for $25.00 but only sells for $1.00.

[mooneyes]

^ and all of the above, disagreement may be the Reason trading is down? or some just took offence to the term REAL lol
Ironically you can do a trade with Piper if memory is right in less than a minute using using BV which is the main point I would guess as no one like to haggle for 3 days!
With cash, ie EBAY, someone always says yeah but your trader, ONE Rookie of player X sold for 1$ ( at 3 am, with misspelling! )
which is an obvious attempt to lowball someone, as is But I can buy one locally for insert stupid low price, which Can't be confirmed, and it turns people off trading in a HUGE way! Well me anyway,
Just m 2 cents

[rustyisin]

difficult to trade with others who claim items are unavailable...part of their personal collection.
That leaves only lesser demand items.
I'm not a collector so everything is available. 99.9% of the trade offers I get are for my A-list stuff
for C list items.

[rustyisin]

Exactly. I only use beckett for low end stuff. I'm not trading a patch that only books for $25.00 but sells for $20.00 for a 20 year old parallel that books for $25.00 but only sells for $1.00.

if you can't pluck completed prices from e-bay you're a heartbeat away from having to use Beckett as your bible again.

The worst thing that happened to this hobby is the ability to look up completed items on ebay. It doesn't seem to matter that there is a range of prices for any item - the buyer will only focus on the lowest sale and claim it's the entire market. each subsequent sale must be at a lower value of the buyer believes they've overpaid. So it becomes a race to the bottom.

I'm on record as saying that ebay should not make the sales data available (at least not for free).
Would do wonders for the hobby