The Final Vault Releases

[creasecollector]

No clue on the checklist, but at the Expo I pulled an 11th card... a 2013/14 BTP Greg Millen Goaliegraph. I didn't even realize it until the third time I went through the deck and counted the cards and then looked for a non-stamped card. Cool!

Congrats! Those non-stamped cards (aka "the 11th card") seem to be nice surprises! A saw a CuJo auto pulled during one of SCF's case breaks. Some nice stuff in the Final Vault!

[scottkoz20]

we hit an 11th card in the 2nd SCF Case Break - it was @bprice that called it out as no one noticed this during the filming! LOL

[creasecollector]

we hit an 11th card in the 2nd SCF Case Break - it was @bprice that called it out as no one noticed this during the filming! LOL

Saw that! Wasn't it that sweet CuJo auto? That was a nice hit.

[scottkoz20]

it was the CuJo card

[NT_cards]

As i understood all those "final vault" stamped cards seems to be 1/1 cards, correct?

Do they have different colors like previous vault stamps or all will be black colored? I'm asking becaue i saw on ebay two exactly the same final vault 1/1 stamped cards:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/2015-16-Fina...YAAOSwq19XCmxO

and this

http://www.ebay.com/itm/2015-16-Leaf...4AAOSwiylXCwdj

Or it is an error?

[creasecollector]

The Green Vault stamps vary In print run I believe, and the other 'Vault 1/1' stamps do have more limited print run and are unique to that colour stamp.

I don't fully understand these print runs yet to be honest, but hoping that will be clearer when I see more cards. :)

Be sure to also check out Brian Price's latest blog post.

[sedinfan]

As i understood all those "final vault" stamped cards seems to be 1/1 cards, correct?

No, only cards that have "1/1" as part of the foil stamp are 1/1's.

Do they have different colors like previous vault stamps or all will be black colored? I'm asking becaue i saw on ebay two exactly the same final vault 1/1 stamped cards:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/2015-16-Fina...YAAOSwq19XCmxO

and this

http://www.ebay.com/itm/2015-16-Leaf...4AAOSwiylXCwdj

Or it is an error?

The only error is in the auction listings - all autographs in the product are stamped merely with a Black Vault stamp no matter how many were inserted. While it's possible a few autographs indeed only had 1 copy, unless some separate documentation is released with a full card-by-card quantity, we'll never know, but I would assume the vast majority (if not all) autographs are not 1/1's.

Memorabilia cards on the other hand are all stamped with the 1/1 logo - however there are up to 10 different colours of 1/1's, in order: Red, Blue, Green, Silver, Gold, Black, Pink, Purple, Copper, and Teal. If you see one of those colours, it means at least everything before it in the list was also made - so spotting a Blue means definitely a Red was also produced... but you won't know whether Green, Silver, etc., were also made. Only if you see a Teal would you know for sure that the full 10 were made.

Lastly for the Mask cards, for any given card that is in the release there will be at least a gold 1/1 stamp, potentially 5 silver 1/5 stamps, and if there are even more than that the rest will have Green stamps. As with the memorabilia, I take this to mean if you see a green then silver and gold exist, or if you see silver then gold exists.

[30ranfordfan]

The Green Vault stamps vary In print run I believe, and the other 'Vault 1/1' stamps do have more limited print run and are unique to that colour stamp.

I don't fully understand these print runs yet to be honest, but hoping that will be clearer when I see more cards. :)

Be sure to also check out Brian Price's latest blog post.

No, only cards that have "1/1" as part of the foil stamp are 1/1's.




The only error is in the auction listings - all autographs in the product are stamped merely with a Black Vault stamp no matter how many were inserted. While it's possible a few autographs indeed only had 1 copy, unless some separate documentation is released with a full card-by-card quantity, we'll never know, but I would assume the vast majority (if not all) autographs are not 1/1's.

Memorabilia cards on the other hand are all stamped with the 1/1 logo - however there are up to 10 different colours of 1/1's, in order: Red, Blue, Green, Silver, Gold, Black, Pink, Purple, Copper, and Teal. If you see one of those colours, it means at least everything before it in the list was also made - so spotting a Blue means definitely a Red was also produced... but you won't know whether Green, Silver, etc., were also made. Only if you see a Teal would you know for sure that the full 10 were made.

Lastly for the Mask cards, for any given card that is in the release there will be at least a gold 1/1 stamp, potentially 5 silver 1/5 stamps, and if there are even more than that the rest will have Green stamps. As with the memorabilia, I take this to mean if you see a green then silver and gold exist, or if you see silver then gold exists.

As i understood all those "final vault" stamped cards seems to be 1/1 cards, correct?

Do they have different colors like previous vault stamps or all will be black colored? I'm asking becaue i saw on ebay two exactly the same final vault 1/1 stamped cards:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/2015-16-Final-Vault-Arturs-Irbe-Auto-1-Of-1-/152049126505?hash=item2366d58c69:g:1GYAAOSwq19XCmx O

and this

http://www.ebay.com/itm/2015-16-Leaf-ITG-Final-Vault-Arturs-Irbe-BAP-Signature-Auto-Autograph-/381598277192?hash=item58d9079e48:g:904AAOSwiylXCwd j

Or it is an error?

At the expo I helped out with cracking 3 cases.... I've seen a lot of this stuff now, read the info, and I'll post here to explain the four different types of cards you can pull.... and also repost this link to Dr. Price's blog:

https://prezsez.wordpress.com/

For Autographs - They all simply have a "Vault" stamp. There is no 1/1 numbering, nothing. I would not expect any kind of checklist or print runs to be released, so I would assume none of these are 1/1s. They could be (we don't know) but there is nothing to show that.

For Masks - Some are stamps 1 of 1, some are stamped 1 of 5, and others have that same Vault stamp as the autographs.

For Game Used - There are 10 different possible colours for stamps. This was taken from Dr. Price's blog:

Red 1/1 Foil Stamp means that there is at least one card in the product.
Blue 1/1 Foil Stamp means that there are at least two cards in the product.
Green 1/1 Foil Stamp means that there are at least three cards in the product.
Silver 1/1 Foil Stamp means that there are at least four cards in the product.
Gold 1/1 Foil Stamp means that there are at least five cards in the product.
Black 1/1 Foil Stamp means that there are at least six cards in the product.
Pink 1/1 Foil Stamp means that there are at least seven cards in the product.
Purple 1/1 Foil Stamp means that there are at least eight cards in the product.
Copper 1/1 Foil Stamp means that there are at least nine cards in the product.
Teal 1/1 Foil Stamp means that there are up to ten cards in the product.

So all cards have a 1/1 stamp, but they are 1/1s because they are the only copy of that card, with that colour of stamp. All GU cards will have a Red Foil 1/1. If a copy with a Pink stamps exists.... it means there are at least 7 copies of that card.... and Black, Gold, Silver, Green, Blue, and Red all exist for it too. There could be more, there might not be. Only way to know is if you find a copy that signifies a higher print run. Teal means there are 10 copies, my understanding is that no GU card should have more than 10 copies in the production.


Finally, some boxes will have an 11th card. These are cards that were pulled from checklists at some point (I'm guessing because they weren't finished in time for pack out). No way of knowing the print run, but they are not stamped, and act as an extension on the posted checklist for their respective sets.

[NT_cards]

No, only cards that have "1/1" as part of the foil stamp are 1/1's.




The only error is in the auction listings - all autographs in the product are stamped merely with a Black Vault stamp no matter how many were inserted. While it's possible a few autographs indeed only had 1 copy, unless some separate documentation is released with a full card-by-card quantity, we'll never know, but I would assume the vast majority (if not all) autographs are not 1/1's.

Memorabilia cards on the other hand are all stamped with the 1/1 logo - however there are up to 10 different colours of 1/1's, in order: Red, Blue, Green, Silver, Gold, Black, Pink, Purple, Copper, and Teal. If you see one of those colours, it means at least everything before it in the list was also made - so spotting a Blue means definitely a Red was also produced... but you won't know whether Green, Silver, etc., were also made. Only if you see a Teal would you know for sure that the full 10 were made.

Lastly for the Mask cards, for any given card that is in the release there will be at least a gold 1/1 stamp, potentially 5 silver 1/5 stamps, and if there are even more than that the rest will have Green stamps. As with the memorabilia, I take this to mean if you see a green then silver and gold exist, or if you see silver then gold exists.

It is a joke, right? Sorry for my sence of humor

[comfortably9numb]

Anyone know the rates of these 11th card boxes? Are they one per case, or even tougher to pull?