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08-23-2008, 04:55 PM #1
Wow. Just Wow.
That's all i can say in their box break.
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08-23-2008, 05:05 PM #2
Yep, good ol Attyball. He had planned on buying 200 cases of this year's Exquisite, but I think he only got about 150 in. He's a big-time eBay seller and quite the hobby enthusiast.
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08-23-2008, 05:13 PM #3
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cant wait for the box breaks.also whats his ebay name?
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08-23-2008, 05:19 PM #4
It's attyball23. I actually came from the same country as theirs. I'm just really surprised of what they've accomplished.
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08-23-2008, 06:08 PM #5
That's disgusting. It's these sort of people that ruin the hobby by encouraging UD and Topps to keep making obscene products like exquisite.
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08-23-2008, 07:03 PM #6
How is Exquisite "obscene"?
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08-23-2008, 07:44 PM #7
yea i dont really understand either
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08-23-2008, 07:56 PM #8
You're paying hundreds for a couple of cards. It completely ™™™™™™™izes the hobby. Maybe obscene was the wrong adjective. 'Over the top' is better, or perhaps 'not really trading cards but rather something used for investment purposes'. Really, you can't argue that the vast majority of people who buy exquisite and that sort of thing are looking primarily to make a profit through eBay. Which means that they really aren't trading cards.
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08-24-2008, 12:11 AM #9
I see where you're coming from, and I understood what you meant when you used the term "obscene," but I just wanted to see how you explained it in case I took it in an entirely wrong way.
With that said, I can't say I agree with you 100 percent. Products like Exquisite aren't busted primarily to make a profit off of. At least that's now how I see it. I don't know many people who can actually make a profit off Exquisite. Not to say people don't, but it's a rare occurrence. In fact, take a look at Attyball. If he busted his 200 cases, it would cost him about $300,000. I highly doubt he's going to make a profit, or even break even. Sure, he pulled some nice Logomen and masterpieces, but even if he were to sell them for $2,000 a pop on average, he would still have a long, long way to go to break even.
Attyball, though, is a rare occurrence in and of itself. But even if I were to bust open a case, I doubt I'd make my money back let alone a profit unless I pulled an autographed box.
Products like Exquisite are for the hobby enthusiasts who can afford to take that risk. It's a completely different ball game in the high-end market, and I'm sure everyone knows that. Personally, I'll stick to my singles and the occasional pack. But Exquisite and products like it are very much so trading cards. Michael Jordan rookie cards are bought and sold, sometimes, to make profits. Does that mean it's not a trading card? I'm not trying to be facetious, I'm just trying to help illustrate my point.
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08-24-2008, 01:07 AM #10
I really hadn't thought of that, and I half agree with you. The way you described this guys and other 'hobby enthusiasts' breaks it sounds kind of like a combination of gambling and a visit to chucky cheese, and I'm not trying to be facetious either. These hobby enthusiasts spend a ton of money on cases of exquisite, sell what they can, then use that money to buy more cards. Lather, rinse, repeat. Then, along the way, they keep the cards they like the most for themselves, even though they could have gotten them individually for much cheaper. So basically, the way I see it now, they're in it for a different, but equally, in my opinion, negative reason. But hey, I guess it's their money and if that's how they want to spend it, just throwing extra money at upper deck, that's their perogative and all power to them.
As for trading, maybe, once in awhile, if they see another hobby enthusiast with an exquisite card or something like it of similar value, they'll swap. And as for the Jordan, it is somewhat of an antique, and that's where its value comes from. It's not 'injected' (best adjective I could think of) with value by sticking on a jersey letter, having it signed, and making 6 different parallels all numbered to 1. Which brings me to my last point, that exquisite has hurt lower end stuff by making these autographed lettermans so common. Isn't it at all unfair to the casual collector that a jersey auto out of normal upper deck or bowman that's maybe one a case is worth so little now that you can spend more money and be guaranteed a few per pack? It makes even the rarest stuff be worth much less than it really should.
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Originally Posted by SgtPepper 
