Universal Healthcare

[daniel3417]

I've seen Michael Moore's Sicko. I've heard the sad stories, and I feel sympathy for the families affected with bad health. But how is turning our healthcare system over to the government going to help? Both candidates have claimed that Washington is corrupt, so now we should turn over the most precious thing we have to them--our health???

In my opinion, the best way for individuals to get help that can't do so by themselves, is by the charity of others. We can't give others the money and care that they need if the government continues to tax it, and therefore waste it. The best way for my neighbor to get help is for me to help them myself. It is NOT to have my money go to Washington and then all the way back to my neighbor.

I guess you have to actually have faith in the human race for this to work, huh?

Comments are welcome. Please don't refer to other countries since we are not other countries. We're the United States.

[daniel3417]

If you support Obama, you ought to have an opinion on this since it's one of his main goals.

[RedGoneWILD]

I'm still not sure how I feel about this...Obviously government funded healthcare won't be first rate, but it doesn't mean private practice won't exist anymore for the people with the means to afford it...

As far as funding it, I don't know, end the war on drugs and that frees up close to 50 billion per year! Relying on your fellow Americans to help sounds great, but I dont think its at all realistic...In my experiences, people just dont care too much about others

[daniel3417]

In my experiences, people just dont care too much about others

Sounds like you need to find a new home! (It also sounds like a Democrat...)

So we have all these people wanting change, but they would rather the government do it for them? Not around here...if I see my neighbor in need of help, I help. Churches and other civic organizations do it all the time.

The way to lower healthcare costs is COMPETITION, as always. Computers are one example of how more competition has allowed for better advances at cheaper prices.

[RedGoneWILD]

Sounds like you need to find a new home! (It also sounds like a Democrat...)

So we have all these people wanting change, but they would rather the government do it for them? Not around here...if I see my neighbor in need of help, I help. Churches and other civic organizations do it all the time.

The way to lower healthcare costs is COMPETITION, as always. Computers are one example of how more competition has allowed for better advances at cheaper prices.

listen man, i respect your opinions, so respect mine! I don't know what a democrat is other than a political party i'm not a member of...I haven't called a single person a republican or democrat just because I disagree with their view, I think that's ridiculous...I also think based on my responses to most of the threads here, I'm about as anti-government involvement as there is...I didnt even say I was in favor of universal healthcare...You act like if the government provided healthcare, competition would all the sudden cease to exist...

and I live in a very nice place and do not need to find a new home...but thanks for being concerned...

[maddogg]

What's not to like?

[ensbergcollector]

There is plenty to not like about universal health care. For all the talk about cuba and canada's health care, they are worse than ours.
People in canada are put on a multi-year waiting list for major surgery. While I do think insurance is a major deal, I think there are better solutions than government run medicine.

[maddogg]

There is plenty to not like about universal health care. For all the talk about cuba and canada's health care, they are worse than ours.
People in canada are put on a multi-year waiting list for major surgery. While I do think insurance is a major deal, I think there are better solutions than government run medicine.

Does Canada or Cuba have as many hospitals or doctors as America does? What is better a person with a cut going in and getting stiched up the same day or waiting until an infection has taken over his or her body and having to be hospitalized for weeks or months all because they couldn't afford go when it was a simple cut? And there is plenty of talk that America underperforms to that of countries that have universal healthcare.

[daniel3417]

listen man, i respect your opinions, so respect mine! I don't know what a democrat is other than a political party i'm not a member of...I haven't called a single person a republican or democrat just because I disagree with their view, I think that's ridiculous...I also think based on my responses to most of the threads here, I'm about as anti-government involvement as there is...I didnt even say I was in favor of universal healthcare...You act like if the government provided healthcare, competition would all the sudden cease to exist...

and I live in a very nice place and do not need to find a new home...but thanks for being concerned...

I created this specifically to allow other opinions, so of course yours is welcome. I'm not sure where this came from, but sorry if I somehow provoked it.

But how could anyone compete with tax funded healthcare? It would be like private schools vs. public school, in this case, private schools are independent hospitals and public are those that are government run. Private is ten times better.

If you are for minimizing government, how can you support government-run healthcare?

[daniel3417]

Does Canada or Cuba have as many hospitals or doctors as America does? What is better a person with a cut going in and getting stiched up the same day or waiting until an infection has taken over his or her body and having to be hospitalized for weeks or months all because they couldn't afford go when it was a simple cut? And there is plenty of talk that America underperforms to that of countries that have universal healthcare.

I guess there's plenty of talk, but there is no evidence. Mike posted an excellent study on here somewhere. I watched it all, and it's very revealing.

What does the government do well?