observations

[aw00d05]

Because if that was how it was done, none of the candidates would ever come to my state, Tennessee. They would stick to the four corners plus Texas. New York, LA, Miami, Seattle, Chicago, Houston, and Dallas would be the only places getting to see the candidates, and much more importanly, would be the only ones who get to have laws and platforms made for their needs.

Candidates would be extremely liberal because that would easily win the urban vote--the only vote that would matter in a popular election. If you think you have a smal voice now, wait until an abolishment of the Electoral College.

The Electoral College is great because it incorporates state elections with federal elections by determining how many Electoral votes go to each party from the state election. It's a good, unique system.

yes you make a point but your state no offence doesnt give much of an edge not sure how many electorals it has but not much prob like 1/5 of california and youre saying thats where they would be if it were popular thats where they are now... the 5 electorals in a small state dont matter all that do are these states: cali, texas,florida,NY,ohio and penn the rest are almost all half of these they matter some but majority would help more in my opinion but you make a somewhat of a point

[daniel3417]

yes you make a point but your state no offence doesnt give much of an edge not sure how many electorals it has but not much prob like 1/5 of california and youre saying thats where they would be if it were popular thats where they are now... the 5 electorals in a small state dont matter all that do are these states: cali, texas,florida,NY,ohio and penn the rest are almost all half of these they matter some but majority would help more in my opinion but you make a somewhat of a point

That's actually exactly what I was saying..........

[daniel3417]

If there is 10 votes and Mccain win state 60/40 Then he gets 6 and Obama gets 4.. If it's an odd number the winner of the state gets the extra vote. Back when they came up with the rules there wasn't 50 states to travel through and we hadn't gone through a bitter civil war splitting the country. I voted in 2000 even though I knew my vote was a waste and just toilet paper. I knew Gore would win PA but voted for Bush anyway. I will vote in the local and state elections this year when I wheel my father to vote but probably avoid the big one(wish they had none of the above lol)..

The above scenario makes perfect sense. It's already in effect in Maine and Massachusetts, called the Congressional District Method. Any state can choose to do so, so contact your state legislature.

[Bonds_25]

As a voter in California, it does feel rather pointless to vote in the presidential election. Pretty much a guaranteed blue state.

[RenegadeLonghorn]

As a voter in California, it does feel rather pointless to vote in the presidential election. Pretty much a guaranteed blue state.

Texas here. My vote is useless other than to say "I voted". Wow, awesome! I live in a city/county that votes Democrat, but is only one of a handful of counties in Texas that votes Democrat. Texas has always been Republican.

[RedGoneWILD]

yes you make a point but your state no offence doesnt give much of an edge not sure how many electorals it has but not much prob like 1/5 of california and youre saying thats where they would be if it were popular thats where they are now... the 5 electorals in a small state dont matter all that do are these states: cali, texas,florida,NY,ohio and penn the rest are almost all half of these they matter some but majority would help more in my opinion but you make a somewhat of a point

if Al Gore had won his home state of Tennessee in the 2000 election, Florida would not have mattered at all....Gore would have won the presidency

[daniel3417]

if Al Gore had won his home state of Tennessee in the 2000 election, Florida would not have mattered at all....Gore would have won the presidency

Yeah and, PS we got 11 votes, not 5 haha.

Only thing is, Al Gore is no Tennessean. Ask me. I know.

[RedGoneWILD]

kerry collins is no tennessean either. ask me. i know!!!! but we're happy to lend him to you for a while

[daniel3417]

kerry collins is no tennessean either. ask me. i know!!!! but we're happy to lend him to you for a while

He's a Tennessean as long as he doesn't throw INTs. I'm trading in for a Collins #5 jersey.

Ok, done with the hijacking.

Back to the observations.

[OnePimpTiger]

Because if that was how it was done, none of the candidates would ever come to my state, Tennessee. They would stick to the four corners plus Texas. New York, LA, Miami, Seattle, Chicago, Houston, and Dallas would be the only places getting to see the candidates, and much more importanly, would be the only ones who get to have laws and platforms made for their needs.

Why does it matter if a candidate campaigns in a certain state? You can find out everything you need to know about a candidate online, on tv, in newspapers, in magazines, on radio...what are you going to learn in person that you wouldn't otherwise. The majority of the people who go to McCain or Obama rallies are people who are already going to vote for McCain or Obama. As far as I can tell, the only people that might be swayed by an in-person public appearance would be somebody that doesn't pay attention to the issues anyway...they already have all the info they need at their fingertips, why would shaking their hand make a difference?

Candidates would be extremely liberal because that would easily win the urban vote--the only vote that would matter in a popular election. If you think you have a smal voice now, wait until an abolishment of the Electoral College.

I disagree...I think there would be little difference in the outcome. The major liberal urban areas already go to the Dems...NYC, LA, SF, Boston, Philly, Detroit, etc, etc...they're in blue states, so all their votes go to Dems anyway. In a popular election, or something like Streicher mentioned, at least conservatives in urban areas would still have their vote counted. Look out how the blue and red states came out in the 2004 election:



18 blue states vs. 30 red states (for some reason the map left off Alaska and Hawaii). The race was one of the closest ever, yet there were 12 more red states than blue. It already works out that the urban areas have a larger vote than rural areas...which is the way it should be, because more people live there.

In Democracy, every person's vote is supposed to count and the Electoral College is supposed to represent a general count....so why not just have a general count?