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    The biggest thing people forget is that when the governement does anything it's a zero sum gain.

    If you had any idea of how critical thinking actually works, you would realize this is what I was saying in the first place (Hint: to give a credit, something would need to be taken back, or "equalized")

    I am not necessarily in favor of his policies, I am merely speculating. I did not even discuss specifics, I was generalizing about what 'could' happen. No one knows even close to everything, or anything, about the underlying effects, including you, mintman2.

    For one second, I just want people to stop embodying stubborn agendas so they cannot look through those preset glasses at the issues (political or otherwise) any more. But, oh, we can't have that

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    Energy
    • Spend $15 billion a year on renewable sources of energy.



    Health care

    • Spend $10 billion over five years on health care information technology.


    I'll pick the gimmies . Obama will spend this much easy

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    I picked out about 18 that are pretty feasible.

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    If you had any idea of how critical thinking actually works, you would realize this is what I was saying in the first place (Hint: to give a credit, something would need to be taken back, or "equalized")

    I am not necessarily in favor of his policies, I am merely speculating. I did not even discuss specifics, I was generalizing about what 'could' happen. No one knows even close to everything, or anything, about the underlying effects, including you, mintman2.

    For one second, I just want people to stop embodying stubborn agendas so they cannot look through those preset glasses at the issues (political or otherwise) any more. But, oh, we can't have that

    DUHHHH, yeah I is soooo shtupid I don't even know what "equalize the effects on small business" means. Ummmm, what DOES that mean ? You probably don't want to answer me though since I got on my "preset glasses" (what the hell does that mean ?) and stubborn aggenda.

    Critical thinking ?
    No one knows even close to everything, or anything, about the underlying effects ?


    DELETED I don't have to know EVERYTHING to know that raising costs on small businesses is a VERY bad idea.

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    Aaaah! You got me! I'm 9, actually. Well, 9 and 1/2. I still wet the bed though.

    One does not have to know everything. However, a person should at least be well-established in the field to have any credibility. These are all just opinions, yours and mine alike.

    When I say "equalize", I am looking at the overall picture. Everything is connected, and as such, policies from other issues could also influence that area. I said "equalize" because in the end, the effects 'could' relatively balance on small business.

    The 'preset glasses' are ways of thought we accept as our own because they are associated with ideals we believe in, even though they may not necessarily be in concurrence with our other beliefs. In this, they act as a sort of filter when we analyze an issue, and we only see the issue(s) through those glasses, at times avoiding certain realities that go against the mindset.

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    Im going with 27

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    gladdy - TechMan had 6 picked before you, take another

    ToySoldierz - You're quite the optimist!



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    gladdy - TechMan had 6 picked before you, take another

    ToySoldierz - You're quite the optimist!

    Its My Country and He's My President. All I have is Hope

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    Aaaah! You got me! I'm 9, actually. Well, 9 and 1/2. I still wet the bed though.

    It's okay, I have a plastic sheet on my bed just in case.

    One does not have to know everything. However, a person should at least be well-established in the field to have any credibility. These are all just opinions, yours and mine alike.

    To have credibility one does not need to be "well established in the field".

    I don't have a medical degree but I can state with certainty the repercussions of hitting someone in the neck with a machete.

    I'm not an aeronautical engineer but I'm pretty sure i could speak with authority regarding the outcome of an F-16 that runs out of fuel.


    We've entered some kind of twilight zone where all opinions, all people, all societies, are somehow deemed as being equal. I'm sorry but everything is NOT equal and I don't need a degree in a particular field to be able to figure out some ideas are bad.

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    It's okay, I have a plastic sheet on my bed just in case.

    To have credibility one does not need to be "well established in the field".

    I don't have a medical degree but I can state with certainty the repercussions of hitting someone in the neck with a machete.

    I'm not an aeronautical engineer but I'm pretty sure i could speak with authority regarding the outcome of an F-16 that runs out of fuel.

    We've entered some kind of twilight zone where all opinions, all people, all societies, are somehow deemed as being equal. I'm sorry but everything is NOT equal and I don't need a degree in a particular field to be able to figure out some ideas are bad.

    The problem is, your examples have predictable outcomes.

    I was speaking towards issues where the outcomes are not certain. It is obvious the issues in this topic do NOT have predictable outcomes whatsoever. In these cases, it is highly desirable to consult people who have acclaimed experience in the field under question. (Whether than entails having a degree is an afterthought.) Now, I know even experts do not predict everything either. The main point is that they have a much better understanding of what goes on with the variation in a field. This is because of their more widely renowned experience, and as such, they have more credible opinions from proving themselves in said field.

    So, without having any experience on the issue, one cannot make claims as to what will happen, only about what could happen. The beef I have with you is that you think your opinion somehow warrants a strong conviction in terms of the true outcome, compounded by ignoring the unpredictable nature of issues such as the ones being discussed.

    One does not need a "degree". But one does need to be recognized for his positive work in a particular area for his opinion to have any sort of deserved influence.

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