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    You are exceptionally fortunate. As a recent college graduate with a useless liberal arts B.A., wasted hours accumulating a worthless 3.75 G.P.A., and no working experience, I'd be very happy to take a job that pays $8/hour right now. I have submitted well over 40 resumes and applications for basic clerical jobs, but have only conducted two interviews. I was turned down in both for lack of experience.

    Sounds like my experience. It really is tough right now and nowhere near fun. I say hire me so I can gain the experience...wink, wink, nudge, nudge

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    Sounds like my experience. It really is tough right now and nowhere near fun. I say hire me so I can gain the experience...wink, wink, nudge, nudge

    Yeah..a few college friends I know are doing all right, but most of them are pretty much in my boat. Businesses right now are playing it safe in the short term because of the economy - as such, they aren't taking "risks" on recent college grads who don't have experience (utilizing experience in their eyes is almost always more valuable than developing potential). The problem with that, of course, is we recent college grads might very well still live in our parents' houses until we're in our thirties because no one wants to give us decent work. And that, people, will become a serious long term economic problem in its own right.

    Not that it's easy for a lot of experienced people, either - my older half sister is an exceptionally reliable worker who had a job which paid about $100K, but she got out of it last year, feeling burnt out from it. She finally got a full-time job this month, but it pays only $12/hour. $100K to $12/hour, and she has experience!

    Our economy is undeniably in the toilet. Sure, some people are in a fairly secure and almost ideal position right now, but I'd say many more of us aren't.

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    yeah, exactly....so what was the point of bringing that up?

    because, people are referring to this as the worst crisis since the great depression. guess what? people weren't out buying on sale $500 TV's in the great depression. People weren't concerned with toys and electronics and all the other crap we buy. So, the point in brining it up is that yes, for those effected this is horrible. But this country is not lining up for bread (needs). they are lining up for high-end wants.

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    because, people are referring to this as the worst crisis since the great depression. guess what? people weren't out buying on sale $500 TV's in the great depression. People weren't concerned with toys and electronics and all the other crap we buy. So, the point in brining it up is that yes, for those effected this is horrible. But this country is not lining up for bread (needs). they are lining up for high-end wants.

    thats because there werent $500 TV's to be bought during the great depression...

    read the newspapers man....everyday there are companies closing, jobs being eliminated, auto makers begging for money, banks folding...come on man, you cant be serious....there were 533,000 jobs lost in November...just because times might not be AS BAD as the 1930's doesn't mean this isn't the worse economic situation SINCE the 1930's

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    thats because there werent $500 TV's to be bought during the great depression...

    read the newspapers man....everyday there are companies closing, jobs being eliminated, auto makers begging for money, banks folding...come on man, you cant be serious....there were 533,000 jobs lost in November...just because times might not be AS BAD as the 1930's doesn't mean this isn't the worse economic situation SINCE the 1930's

    i do read the news man. I am not saying things are not really bad. But here is the problem with the news. Everyone knows things are bad. Everyone knows things have been bad. And yet, some independent study comes out a couple of weeks ago saying "things have been bad since 2007" and the stock market takes a hit. I mean come on, all it takes is for someone to tell us its bad (which we already knew) and we panic some more.

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    couldn't agree more with ensberg. Panic is definitely being sold to us. I don't think he's saying that it's not a bad situation. He's just saying it's not even close to the Great Depression.

    As far as the situation, it all goes back to people living outside of their means. Just because a mortgage company will give you a mortgage of 80% of your monthly income doesn't mean you have to take it. Sure the banks didn't do anything to help the situation either, but if people didn't take loans that they couldn't pay there wouldn't be unpaid loans to this degree. Yes, people have lost jobs, but I'm sure many could have lived in a 100K instead of a 200K home and saved up some cash for a rainy day. I don't have back up for this claim, but I don't think the poor really had much of an effect on the current rash of foreclosures. I'm willing to bet that a lot of it is middle class and above people simply buying too much of a house or buying a house that was grossly over priced. When that happens you're bound to be in trouble.

    I'm guessing that 70% of people living pay check to pay check is quite a bit high, but so many people screw themselves by spending everything they get. You can't expect your job to always be there and you should plan accordingly. Some people can't save like that, but most people simply don't want to. It's a "right now" type of country and hopefully this will wake a lot of people up.


    As far as redistributing of wealth, you're crazy if you think putting all our money into a pool and dividing it equally would ever happen and even if it did, most of the people that were poor before would be poor after and likewise about the wealthy. Sure there are people that luck into millions, but most people that are rich are so because of hard work or opportunity and those things won't change.

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    As far as getting a job out of school, it's always be harder than after you have experience. When I got out of school in 1997 it took me a few years to find something in my field. I ended up working freelance with companies until I got hired on full time. I'm sure it's a bit tougher now but it's usually more difficult to get hired when companies don't want to babysit an employee. I had two or three places pass on me simply because they didn't have the man power to train me so intensively. Sure you get training at college but it's not even close to real world work, at least in my experience.

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    im not implying its as bad as the great depression....thats just crazy talk....all im saying is this is probably the worst economic times SINCE then

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    couldn't agree more with ensberg. Panic is definitely being sold to us. I don't think he's saying that it's not a bad situation. He's just saying it's not even close to the Great Depression.

    As far as the situation, it all goes back to people living outside of their means. Just because a mortgage company will give you a mortgage of 80% of your monthly income doesn't mean you have to take it. Sure the banks didn't do anything to help the situation either, but if people didn't take loans that they couldn't pay there wouldn't be unpaid loans to this degree. Yes, people have lost jobs, but I'm sure many could have lived in a 100K instead of a 200K home and saved up some cash for a rainy day. I don't have back up for this claim, but I don't think the poor really had much of an effect on the current rash of foreclosures. I'm willing to bet that a lot of it is middle class and above people simply buying too much of a house or buying a house that was grossly over priced. When that happens you're bound to be in trouble.

    I'm guessing that 70% of people living pay check to pay check is quite a bit high, but so many people screw themselves by spending everything they get. You can't expect your job to always be there and you should plan accordingly. Some people can't save like that, but most people simply don't want to. It's a "right now" type of country and hopefully this will wake a lot of people up.


    As far as redistributing of wealth, you're crazy if you think putting all our money into a pool and dividing it equally would ever happen and even if it did, most of the people that were poor before would be poor after and likewise about the wealthy. Sure there are people that luck into millions, but most people that are rich are so because of hard work or opportunity and those things won't change.
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    My thoughts exactly

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    When I got out of school in 1997 it took me a few years to find something in my field.

    Thanks for sharing your experience. I withdrew from graduate school over the summer since two professors told me the major I had wouldn't help me any more than my current B.A. would. Since the summer, I've been seeking a job - but that's only half a year, where you mention you had to wait several.

    I did take an internship in college, but even those can only prepare a person so much.

    I'll just remain patient and keep sending in those resumes and applications - that's all I can do, really.

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