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04-21-2009, 11:13 PM #1
Value is there any value?
Just wanted to toss this out there and see what you guys and gals thought. Is there any value to a TTM autograph? We must all think there is some sort of value or we would not even be in this part of SCF! You will never find TTMs in a price guide! They do not book does that equal to having no value? Does the value of stars rookie card go up when it is signed TTM or does it drop as it is written on? We all know that TTM autographs are not worth what certfied and authenticated autographs are, but what is the value? I know that I would trade a certified current star for a TTM of let us say Cal Ripken JR from a fellow collector that I trusted. I do not know too many TTM guys who would not do the same. I have not or do I ever plan on selling the thousands of TTM and IP autographs that I have, but what are they worth? We trade TTM autographs and we do so without a priceguide? What no equal bookvalue? That might be one of the reasons that I like TTMs the most. There is never going to be a pricebook for them, but seriously what are your thoughts? What is the value in your collection?
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04-21-2009, 11:22 PM #2
The value in my collection is sentimentality. Every autograph that I've gotten via email is special to me, as these athletes and celebrities have taken time out of their important lives to sign, personalize, and mail something back to me. I would never trade or sell my stuff, but like everyone else, I believe the true value is in collecting. There is a reason we all love this and why the chase of getting autographs is so enjoyable.
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04-21-2009, 11:33 PM #3Registered User
Couldn't have said it better myself.
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04-21-2009, 11:40 PM #4
Rookie cards better TTM'd or left alone? Would you want your Michael Jordan Fleer RC signed or unsigned?
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04-21-2009, 11:43 PM #5
If I had 4 or 5 Jordan RCs, I would get one signed lol, but it depends on one's preference I guess. I would want a signed rookie card, but only if I have more than one of those RCs.
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04-22-2009, 12:10 AM #6
Its just cardboard. With the amazing things that I have seen people do on here with the customs... I dont know if I would ever buy something off EBAY!!!
As for my collection of TTM's I send to people that I cherish. Like anyone that wore a Phillies uni. I could care less if some piece of jersey may or may not have been worn during a practice in July and Mike Schmidt sweated on it, then years later Upper Deck bought this item and stuck it in a card for me to rub with my finger. WOW, a 1x1 piece of uniform. I have one but it means nothing. I would rather buy a jersey, take it to a signing and have him sign it in Person! Then I know that I met that guy one night or sat afternoon at an auto show or cell phone store grand opening with my kids. That is much more worth anything to me than something that was stuck in a pack and I have a 1/1.
I guess you could compare it to snowflakes... No one can ever replicate the letter that I wrote, the player taking the time to respond, and then send it back to me THE FAN!!!
That is my take on TTM and IP. I dont think any of my autos are worth certifying other than the Griffey I got IP in 1988 while he played for the Vermont Mariners. I saw him in my town, bought a crappy logo ball and got him to sign it. Its faded, smudged, and bleeding but its mine and I would never want to sell it. I have a certified that my uncle got me and its looks beautiful in its case with a piece of paper from company xxx saying its real and such, but it will never mean as much as the one I got when I was 11 IN PERSON!!!
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04-22-2009, 06:23 AM #7
Rookie cards are mostly junk nowadays unless they already have an auto, jersey or both already on them. Might as well get them signed. Sure back in the day all cards were the same, but in the past 8 or so years a card is just cardboard if it doesn't have something the player actually touched stuck to it.
When it comes to value, ttm autographs are my favorite, as long as you pretty much know they are legitimate. It is a much better feeling knowing a player sent your card back than pulling an auto out of a pack. As for monetary value, something is always worth what someone is willing to pay for it. Ttm and in person autos have the tendency to sell very low on ebay though. An unceritifed auto of a star player can be had for 3-4 dollars and even a player like Pujols can be had for around 20 bucks. Any player who thinks twice about signing a card because it might end up on ebay needs to rethink their logic. Waiting around for hours trying to nab an auto just to sell it for 5 bucks on ebay doesn't make any sense at all.
...Drunken rant sorry.
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04-22-2009, 11:23 AM #8
For me, the value is all in my head and heart. Not in my wallet. I love spending time creating cards and getting them signed. When my own work comes back to me, it's awesome. When the player asks for more cards or adds a nice note about them, that's the icing on the cake for me. The older players never had cards with anything other than a border around their photo, so getting to send them a card with a different look to it is fun. I keep a binder of just notes and letters written to me that I enjoy looking at as much as the cards.
I also know that my kids will enjoy my collection more because I put myself into it.
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04-22-2009, 12:47 PM #9
Can't put a price on my stuff- maybe someday my family will have to do that though. I feel bad for anyone in my family that has to go through everything...
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04-22-2009, 01:45 PM #10
Thank you for those of you who responded to this thread. I wanted to hear that others felt the same about their collections as I do mine. I agree that no one will ever value my collection as much as I do. The fact of the matter is that it does not matter what the value is as it is not for sale.
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