PSA vs BGS graded cards

[Qball76]

BGS in my opinion is the strictest of the two, and most auctions that I have seen BGS always brings the hightest return...Several collectors myself included would prefer a lesser graded card from BGS over a PSA 10 IMO.....

[john1170]

Originally posted by Qball76
BGS in my opinion is the strictest of the two, and most auctions that I have seen BGS always brings the hightest return...Several collectors myself included would prefer a lesser graded card from BGS over a PSA 10 IMO.....

They bring in more money for modern cards, not vintage. The people who collect vintage material go with PSA or SGC as it brings in more money.

[jerome829]

Sorry for bringing up such an old thread - but I have to ask: has anything changed over the years?

Is BGS still the strictest when it comes to grading?

I've thought about buying some graded high-end cards on eBay but always wonder: which one should I go for? BGS or PSA?

I also worry that something that was graded by one of these companies 5 or so years ago would be different if regraded today or worry that the card hasn't stayed in its top condition?

Maybe it's just my paranoia.

[nebboy]

BGS for Newset Modern card if you send in this years cards you it seems like you get better grading. a 10 year old or older its hard to get over a 8.5.
I like to buy vintage BGV cards when ever I can in 6.5 or better becouse they are so tuff, I feel Im getting just a bit better card, about a half grade at times.
PSA 50s to 90s - some peoplwe will only do PSA and want the same grader for entire collection of slabbed cards.
SGC pre WWII cards there are much better at the old stuff

SAY AWAY FROM AGAIN THING ELSE - it will hurt not help you values

[dfr52]

BGS for Newset Modern card if you send in this years cards you it seems like you get better grading. a 10 year old or older its hard to get over a 8.5.
I like to buy vintage BGV cards when ever I can in 6.5 or better becouse they are so tuff, I feel Im getting just a bit better card, about a half grade at times.
PSA 50s to 90s - some peoplwe will only do PSA and want the same grader for entire collection of slabbed cards.
SGC pre WWII cards there are much better at the old stuff

SAY AWAY FROM AGAIN THING ELSE - it will hurt not help you values

Sounds about right except I'd go PSA 50's to 80's and 90's and newer to BGS. BGS really hurt themselves with the site change and the destruction of their registry.

[booyahlaw]

I agree with Nebboy and co. to the extent of their SGC and PSA reco's. On a personal note, I used to swear by PSA on everything, however after having sent a couple cards to SGC, I am thoroughly impressed by their customer service. Actually got to talk to the grader at SGC, about not only my submissions but the hobby in general. It was pretty refreshing after years of getting the cold shoulder when trying to personally communicate with anyone at PSA. From now on, anything prior to 1980 I will send to SGC. Also, on an asthetic note, I find their holder more attractive than the other two companies, especially for pre-WWII cards.

That being said, for any "newer card" submissions, I will likely stay with PSA, for the sole reason that I have several cards already with them and find them to be the industry standard bearer for new card submissions. BGS always worried me for a couple of reasons, including 1) my perception of a conflict between running a grading company and a pricing catalog (I know PSA does the same thing, but PSA's primary business lies with slabbing, not advertising and pricing) and 2) I have always found the fact that BGS runs off shoot companies such as BVG and BCCG? as dilutive of their grading credibility. It doesn't make much sense to me to run seperate companies instead of slabbing everything with a BGS slab. If someone can explain the rationale behind this, I would appreciate it.

I have heard that BGS does a great job with newer cards, but I have had newer (post 2000) cards slabbed and regret this decision in general. In my point of view, there is no reason to slab a serial numbered, autoed or jersey card--as most of the new cards should be garnering grades of 9, 9.5 or 10 anyway. I just don't see the return on investment of slabbing a newer card. I guess this may be better suited as a topic for another post though, sorry.

[jerome829]

Thank you, thank you and thank you for all the info/insight. It is very helpful and appreciated.

I'm a basketball collector and would really like to start buying graded in the mid to late '80s. I think I've found my calling in what I want to collect.

Does Beckett still use BVG and BCCG? Do they have lower standards when grading? If so why do they do this? Appeal to a market that doesn't want to spend as much?

Finally, is it uncommon to get a card regraded? Especially after finding out its registry is > 5 years old or that you are just simply unhappy with the condition of its holder from another individual?

[dfr52]

I agree with Nebboy and co. to the extent of their SGC and PSA reco's. On a personal note, I used to swear by PSA on everything, however after having sent a couple cards to SGC, I am thoroughly impressed by their customer service. Actually got to talk to the grader at SGC, about not only my submissions but the hobby in general. It was pretty refreshing after years of getting the cold shoulder when trying to personally communicate with anyone at PSA. From now on, anything prior to 1980 I will send to SGC. Also, on an asthetic note, I find their holder more attractive than the other two companies, especially for pre-WWII cards.

That being said, for any "newer card" submissions, I will likely stay with PSA, for the sole reason that I have several cards already with them and find them to be the industry standard bearer for new card submissions. BGS always worried me for a couple of reasons, including 1) my perception of a conflict between running a grading company and a pricing catalog (I know PSA does the same thing, but PSA's primary business lies with slabbing, not advertising and pricing) and 2) I have always found the fact that BGS runs off shoot companies such as BVG and BCCG? as dilutive of their grading credibility. It doesn't make much sense to me to run seperate companies instead of slabbing everything with a BGS slab. If someone can explain the rationale behind this, I would appreciate it.

I have heard that BGS does a great job with newer cards, but I have had newer (post 2000) cards slabbed and regret this decision in general. In my point of view, there is no reason to slab a serial numbered, autoed or jersey card--as most of the new cards should be garnering grades of 9, 9.5 or 10 anyway. I just don't see the return on investment of slabbing a newer card. I guess this may be better suited as a topic for another post though, sorry.

I have heard many positive things about SGC's customer service, more than any other company. BVG hurt themselves when they cut out the subs-they became PSA w/ a better case. I think BVG is supposed to consider the time frame in which the card was produced the tech used in making it (ex.rough cuts).

I can see getting modern stuff graded if a collector wants to product their collection b/c the BGS case is the best out there.

[dfr52]

Thank you, thank you and thank you for all the info/insight. It is very helpful and appreciated.

I'm a basketball collector and would really like to start buying graded in the mid to late '80s. I think I've found my calling in what I want to collect.

Does Beckett still use BVG and BCCG? Do they have lower standards when grading? If so why do they do this? Appeal to a market that doesn't want to spend as much?

Finally, is it uncommon to get a card regraded? Especially after finding out its registry is > 5 years old or that you are just simply unhappy with the condition of its holder from another individual?

BCCG is the mass grading service that Beckett offers and they don't grade as strict. BVG just handles cards 80/79 and earlier.

[EdgarM_11]

Finally, is it uncommon to get a card regraded? Especially after finding out its registry is > 5 years old or that you are just simply unhappy with the condition of its holder from another individual?

You don't need to resubmit the card for a re-grade if it is still in its holder. Grading companies offer reholdering services, usually for somewhere around $5, but you're also on the hook for shipping both ways as well, and the time it takes to get the service done.