Considering the Military. Help needed.

[pyonir]

The competition in jobs for law enforcement largely depends on the state as well. With budget cuts recently it's gotten harder, but, for example, in Arizona they don't even get enough qualified applicants for most departments. Just a couple years ago they were having testing sessions every 1-3 months in some cities.

[GriffeyJr.FAN3]

The competition in jobs for law enforcement largely depends on the state as well. With budget cuts recently it's gotten harder, but, for example, in Arizona they don't even get enough qualified applicants for most departments. Just a couple years ago they were having testing sessions every 1-3 months in some cities.

well i live in indiana but im near chicago so thats a possibility as well

[PamPam]

My brother got a 4 year degree in criminal justice, then went to work as a police officer. He moved to a smaller city and moved up through the ranks pretty quickly. After about 4 years, he got a job with the FBI and loves it.

[haybierman]

For what its worth, there are plenty of other federal law enforcement agencies out there that are a bit easier to climb on board with than the Feebs.

FBI is far and away the mist difficult agency to hire into just because their name recognition allows them to be more picky than others. It is also a very real possibility that you would have to start out as an analyst or admin job of some sort and then promote from within to agent after 5 years or so. Also they have a very strict no-drug policy so if you have EVER done them, search elsewhere.

Most agencies have some sort of cross-over investigatory authority so depending on what types of cases you want to work, you can probably find it outside the bureau. Also, it should be noted that the bureau is becoming more and more of an intel agency than a LE one so pursuing that avenue would depend on if you want to actually work cases or just do intel.

I will follow up with a quick rundown of other agencies you may want to check out as well as the bureau.

IRS - Otherwise known as geeks with guns. They investigate money launderers, tax evaders, etc.. Not a ton of kicking down doors but its decent work.

ICE - Old Customs and INS service merged into one mess of an agency. Nevertheless, you get a little more leg room for investigations. Anything from illegal aliens to weapons smuggling. ICE generally hires about 1/3 Border Patrol or CBP, 1/3 state or local LE, and 1/3 right out of college. If you come from BP, CBP or any other LE background you dont need a 4-yr degree.

DEA - have sole authority over Title 21 (narcotics) and are really active in kicking down doors; see: Travis henry. This is another agency, however, that if you have ever done drugs, dont even bother.

NCIS - Not like the TV show at all. Its usual detective work, but your authority is very broad... which is always nice. Really anything remotely associated with the military is yours.

DCIS - Not quite as high speed as NCIS, these dudes focus more on military contracts and make sure military property isnt being stolen and such.

ATF - Awesome job if you want to kick down doors. ATF has jurisdiction on anything related to firearms, tobacco, and alcohol (unless the firearms are being exported, which makes it ICE territory). ATF is straight up badass and if you cant kick ***, pass this by.

US Marshals - You spend all day tracking down fugitives. You had better be in great shape and not be afraid to fight. These dudes are rough.

Secret Service - No casework, all protective detail. Just be able to run forever and youre in.

DSS (Diplomatic Security Service) - This is pretty much the same as the SS except its abroad. They set you up with sick housing and you protect visiting dignitaries. If you want to live foreign, go with this.

hope this helps. let me know if you have any more questions (in PM please)

[GriffeyJr.FAN3]

For what its worth, there are plenty of other federal law enforcement agencies out there that are a bit easier to climb on board with than the Feebs.

FBI is far and away the mist difficult agency to hire into just because their name recognition allows them to be more picky than others. It is also a very real possibility that you would have to start out as an analyst or admin job of some sort and then promote from within to agent after 5 years or so. Also they have a very strict no-drug policy so if you have EVER done them, search elsewhere.

Most agencies have some sort of cross-over investigatory authority so depending on what types of cases you want to work, you can probably find it outside the bureau. Also, it should be noted that the bureau is becoming more and more of an intel agency than a LE one so pursuing that avenue would depend on if you want to actually work cases or just do intel.

I will follow up with a quick rundown of other agencies you may want to check out as well as the bureau.

IRS - Otherwise known as geeks with guns. They investigate money launderers, tax evaders, etc.. Not a ton of kicking down doors but its decent work.

ICE - Old Customs and INS service merged into one mess of an agency. Nevertheless, you get a little more leg room for investigations. Anything from illegal aliens to weapons smuggling. ICE generally hires about 1/3 Border Patrol or CBP, 1/3 state or local LE, and 1/3 right out of college. If you come from BP, CBP or any other LE background you dont need a 4-yr degree.

DEA - have sole authority over Title 21 (narcotics) and are really active in kicking down doors; see: Travis henry. This is another agency, however, that if you have ever done drugs, dont even bother.

NCIS - Not like the TV show at all. Its usual detective work, but your authority is very broad... which is always nice. Really anything remotely associated with the military is yours.

DCIS - Not quite as high speed as NCIS, these dudes focus more on military contracts and make sure military property isnt being stolen and such.

ATF - Awesome job if you want to kick down doors. ATF has jurisdiction on anything related to firearms, tobacco, and alcohol (unless the firearms are being exported, which makes it ICE territory). ATF is straight up badass and if you cant kick ***, pass this by.

US Marshals - You spend all day tracking down fugitives. You had better be in great shape and not be afraid to fight. These dudes are rough.

Secret Service - No casework, all protective detail. Just be able to run forever and youre in.

DSS (Diplomatic Security Service) - This is pretty much the same as the SS except its abroad. They set you up with sick housing and you protect visiting dignitaries. If you want to live foreign, go with this.

hope this helps. let me know if you have any more questions (in PM please)

this is all really great info thanks alot! but i think i can make the fbi, i have never in my life abused a drug, so glad i never have.

[pyonir]

haybierman beat me to it, I was going to list some other agencies to look at. That's very good list to start with though. There are so many different departments and jobs it would be impossible to list them all. One other one I was going to mention was US Postal Inspector.

Anyway, this is a good site to take a look at for what's out there. It'll give you the opportunity to look at what is required of the positions currently hiring so you can get a better understanding of what is out there, and what you need to do to get there. :)

http://jobsearch.usajobs.gov/search....ler=basic.aspx

If that link doesn't work just go to: http://www.usajobs.gov/

[RLewisH]

I'm getting a scholarship if I carry a B average throughout highschool. After I complete the years already paid for, I'm going to join the Navy like my Grandpa, Dad, Uncle, Great Uncle, and Cousin. Then try for BUD/S.

[spydermat]

yea you know i read that on their site about the 4 year college but it slipped my mind until you brought it up. and thanks for the advice on the recruiters

be very careful with recrueters, im not saying all are shady but alot are. when i took the asvab i score a 96 and had recruiters from every branch call me everyday for a year or so. some went as far as to tell me he was calling me from a secure in iraq to telling me the army just bought him this nice corvette(which i learned later he borrowed from a dealership my uncle worked for)

[haybierman]

Then try for BUD/S.

have some friends in the program... wow is all I can say. hardcore.