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09-17-2009, 12:06 PM #1
A noob asking questions
Hi.
So, 15 years ago I bought a shoebox full of cards at a garage sale, thinking I'd get into cards and make millions. Shortly after I discovered girls, and the shoebox got put in the closet and forgotten until recently when I was helping my parents clean out their house.
I've been going through the cards, mostly hockey but some baseball, but I've got a ton of questions and I'm hoping for some advice.
1) All the cards are late 80s/early 90s, so I already know the collection will not put my kids through college.
2) About 500 of the hockey cards are the French series 91/92 Pro Set. Are French cards higher in value than English cards because of their rarity, or lower because they're French? Does it matter for major players? (Is a Gretzky card a Gretzky card, regardless of language?)
3) How good was Pro Set's quality control? I'm asking because I noticed that my French Pro Set 91/92 Bob McGill (#47) has English on the front (Drafted by San Jose). I've not seen this in any of my other cards, so do I have a rare misprint, or one of thousands of Pro Set snafus?
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09-17-2009, 12:14 PM #2
pro set is worth near 0 .. unfortunately... Ill let others comment... Got anything else besides proset?
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09-17-2009, 02:36 PM #3
unfortunately hes right, a lot of cards from that era are worth about as much as the cardboard their printed on.
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09-17-2009, 03:21 PM #4
Hi.
So, 15 years ago I bought a shoebox full of cards at a garage sale, thinking I'd get into cards and make millions. Shortly after I discovered girls, and the shoebox got put in the closet and forgotten until recently when I was helping my parents clean out their house.
I've been going through the cards, mostly hockey but some baseball, but I've got a ton of questions and I'm hoping for some advice.
1) All the cards are late 80s/early 90s, so I already know the collection will not put my kids through college.
2) About 500 of the hockey cards are the French series 91/92 Pro Set. Are French cards higher in value than English cards because of their rarity, or lower because they're French? Does it matter for major players? (Is a Gretzky card a Gretzky card, regardless of language?)
3) How good was Pro Set's quality control? I'm asking because I noticed that my French Pro Set 91/92 Bob McGill (#47) has English on the front (Drafted by San Jose). I've not seen this in any of my other cards, so do I have a rare misprint, or one of thousands of Pro Set snafus?
First Off, welcome to SCF! Lucky is the collector who focuses on both those of the opposite sex and cards. Though, that type of collector, also tends to be broke.
In answer to your questions:
1) that's kind of an understatement
2) French cards tended to have a lower print run than those of the English cards. Traditionally, they tend to book slightly more (usually by a factor of x1.5). And when I say book, I mean valued Beckett, but eBay is supplanting Beckett as the universal indicator of value. Also, book guide tends to give two numbers. A HI value which is the maximum you could expect to sell a card for (think dealers) and a LO value which is about the minimum you should settle for (think selling to flea market dealers). Unfortunately, Beckett is usually notoriously wrong and, especially for 90s cards, should be ignored. If you get a penny a card for non-stars, that's kind of near the high end that people are willing to pay.
3) Pro Set's quality control was dismal. So dismal in fact that error cards are worth the same as the corrected versions. So bad, that there are several lists of errors and not all of them agree on the types of errors that Pro Set produced. Even if you were the first to find such an error, its only because its been overlooked until today. My vote is for SNAFU.
Those Pro-set cards aren't totally worthless of course. If you're willing to spend the time categorizing them, ordering them, advertising that you have them and waiting (and waiting and waiting and waiting) until a buyer comes along, you might get a decent return on some of them. Its just that there are so many copies of the Pro set. that just about anyone who wants to categorize them will find they have the same copies as you and buyers can find them just about anywhere.
NOW, those late 80's cards... they may not be totally totally worthless... If you really need some help, feel free to PM me the numbers, copyright numbers on the bottom of the cards and from which set they are from and I can help you identify if you have something worth holding onto or not.
All the best,
reoddai
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09-17-2009, 04:30 PM #5
ive made lots of money selling my proset cards!
a Patrick Roy Mask card, anyone remember these?
a Mr. Rogers card, yup, believe it, they sell!!
well, ok. just those 2 cards,
but hey! if you ever need toothpicks,
sounds like you got a few hundred of em!
sorry, didnt mean to be mean.
pack em back up & give the box to a kid that
has no clue what hockey is.
you'll be a hero forever, to kid & the parents.
plus, you'll add another hockey collector someday!
someones trash, is anothers treasure.
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09-18-2009, 04:11 PM #6
Thanks for all the help so far
So, it looks like my entire Pro set collection is worth about $5, and most of that goes to the plastic sheets holding the cards.
Hey, It's OK. I just wanted to know if any of these cards had any value. I won't shoot the messenger.
I'm away on business, I'll get back late next week and let you guys know what else I've got.
Thanks again.
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09-18-2009, 05:44 PM #7
I still have Patrick Roy's Mask Card lol...Any takers? lol
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09-19-2009, 04:22 PM #8
LOL - so do I.....
Anyone ever get the Stanley Cup hologram card???
1990-91 Pro Set #NNO Stanley Cup HOLO Print Run 5000 $100.00
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09-20-2009, 04:45 AM #9Assistant General Manager
LOL - so do I.....
Anyone ever get the Stanley Cup hologram card???
1990-91 Pro Set #NNO Stanley Cup HOLO Print Run 5000 $100.00
Used to book more than that back in the day!!!
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09-25-2009, 12:34 AM #10
OK, I'm back and I've done going through the English Pro sets. I've got a few dozen each of the 90/91 and 91/92 series.
reoddai, you weren't joking when you said the quality control was dismal. Right off I noticed that the cards below the 300s are part French (the stats) and part English (everything else!)
Also, the card condition isn't that great, so I think I've got nothing but fire starter on my hands here.
Can anyone recommend a good website for someone starting out? I'd really like to see examples of card grades, the differences between near mint/excellent, etc.
I'll keep going through the collection, and let you know
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