Fedor!

[windmortal]

And, I forgot about guys like

Frank Mir
Gabriel Gonzaga
and
Heath Herring


How can anyone say the top heavyweight fighters are not in the UFC?

[2-dollars]

I challenge you to name ten top fighters outside the UFC that should even be mentioned in the same sentence as Fedor. Here's my list of ten that are IN the UFC.

Brock Lesnar
Antonio Nogueira
Mirko Flipovich
Shane Carwin
Cain Velasquez
Todd Duffee
Randy Couture
Chieck Kongo
Antonio Hardonk
Stefan Struve
Roy Nelson
Ben Rothwell

Whoops, that's more than 10 .. but you catch my drift. There are names and talent in the UFC.

You are definitely ignoring the talent of Fedor if you think all the guys you just named would have a chance against him. Just because they are in the heavyweight division of the UFC does not make them all equal and it definitely does not mean that they would be better than Fedor. I do agree with you that he needs to beat the best in the UFC, but this does not mean he deserves no credit for what he has done to this point!

I don't think a Fedor/Lesnar fight will ever happen because of Dana White.

[hector234]

I challenge you to name ten top fighters outside the UFC that should even be mentioned in the same sentence as Fedor. Here's my list of ten that are IN the UFC.

Brock Lesnar
Antonio Nogueira (lost to Fedor)
Mirko Flipovich (well past his prime, and he's lost to Fedor)
Shane Carwin ( good prospect, but he has only 1 major win)
Cain Velasquez
Todd Duffee ( 1 fight and he is a top 10 fighter? LMAO, wow)
Randy Couture (would get killed by Fedor)
Chieck Kongo
Antonio Hardonk
Stefan Struve ( Who has he beat that makes him so great?)
Roy Nelson
Ben Rothwell

Whoops, that's more than 10 .. but you catch my drift. There are names and talent in the UFC.

I neer said the UFC didn't have talent, WHOOPS, someone should've read my post. But you said the best talent was in the UFC, which is false.


Andrei Arlovski: won his last 3 fights in the UFC, and was outcast by Dana. He beat both Nelson and Rothwell, or did you forget about that?

Bret Rogers: yeah, he worked at Sam's Club, not Wal-Mart. But the guy did KO Arlovski, and he would beat quite a few of the guys that you listed.

Overeem: He is much better suited at HW, and would also beat some of the fighters you mentioned.

Werdum: He won 3 of his fights in the UFC, before losing to Dos Santos.

Tim Sylvia: Yes,he lost to a boxer, and to Fedor. But he was the UFC HW Champ for quite a while.

[hector234]

And, I forgot about guys like

Frank Mir
Gabriel Gonzaga
and
Heath Herring


How can anyone say the top heavyweight fighters are not in the UFC?

You are sinking fast in this one, time to throw in the towel dude. The same Gonzaga that got beat by Werdum? The guy that is fighting just to stay in the UFC? Heath Herring is a vet, but the guy will never be a top tier fighter. He got smashed by the top fighters in PRIDE, and aside from Kongo, hasn't really earned himself a staple victory in the UFC. As for Mir, ok, he beat Noguiera, who had Staph infection, and caught Lesnar with a rookie movie. But it's too early to even call him a top 10 fighter, he needs to regain the form he had before his accident. Yes, the UFC has some of the best talents, but they don't have ALL the talent. Even in other weight classes, there are some solid talents outside the UFC.

[windmortal]

You are sinking fast in this one, time to throw in the towel dude. The same Gonzaga that got beat by Werdum? The guy that is fighting just to stay in the UFC? Heath Herring is a vet, but the guy will never be a top tier fighter. He got smashed by the top fighters in PRIDE, and aside from Kongo, hasn't really earned himself a staple victory in the UFC. As for Mir, ok, he beat Noguiera, who had Staph infection, and caught Lesnar with a rookie movie. But it's too early to even call him a top 10 fighter, he needs to regain the form he had before his accident. Yes, the UFC has some of the best talents, but they don't have ALL the talent. Even in other weight classes, there are some solid talents outside the UFC.

You still haven't named any top fighters that are not in the UFC

[hector234]

You still haven't named any top fighters that are not in the UFC

So you didn't read my 1st post? You named Struve, Nelson, and Duffee as top fighters.

[windmortal]

So you didn't read my 1st post? You named Struve, Nelson, and Duffee as top fighters.

Okay, take out whoever you want off my list.

You told me I need to watch more UFC because there are great talents outside it.

I'm saying, prove it. I listed the top talent in the UFC heavyweight division. I want to match my top talent list up with yours.

[phillies24]

if rogers threw his hands more he would have won the fight .. he made fedor look ordinary in the first round and won that round with it not even being close the shot fedor landed was a desperation punch that landed .. not taking anything away from fedor he is still amazing .. if he misses that shot fights over .. we are going to see a rematch of fedor and rogers and without question rogers will ko him .. hate to say to all the fedor followers but it will

[Vegas]

I may be in the minority here, but I was impressed with Rogers in defeat--He's legit. He had some good ground game to go along with some brutal punching power. I don't feel that Rogers is the hack slugger everyone was making him out to be--would like to see him against the UFC heavyweights, I think he could hold his own.

As for Fedor, still the greatest.

Have to agree with you here, I was real impressed with Rogers, I even think he won that first round. Rogers proved that his KO of AA was no fluke, dude is a lethal striker! Plus, he just barely quit his job at Sam's Club, so hopefully he made enough money on this fight to train full time. Would love to see him matched up against Bigfoot Silva on the next Strikeforce card!

[dherm360]

I like when Rogers got a little confidence, put his hands on his hips did a little jig like dance, and the next punch he got KO'd. Should have stuck to the stategy of round one and jabbed.

Did Lesner drop out of his fight coming up? Anyone know why?