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11-23-2009, 11:06 AM #21
I don't get it. If you don't think creationism should be taught in school, why wouldn't you mind if it was?
There's nothing wrong with presenting more than one view as long as both sides are well-supported. There's no scientific support for creationism, which is why creationism doesn't belong in a scientific context. Kids get it presented to them at home and at church, which is fine. Parents and church leaders can run their homes and churches however they want. But when they try to say schools have to start teaching their religion because they don't like the science...sorry, friends and neighbors, but you can go play in an atom-smasher. It doesn't get a free pass and an end-run around the scientific process (which is what they really want) solely on the basis of being an alternative.
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11-23-2009, 11:43 AM #22
I wouldn't mind it being taught because it's a different view on the foundation of humanity...the Big Bang is presented, Creationism could be presented as a possible alternative to that. A short, basic "some people believe this" mention would be fine. But I agree with you that it is not scientifically supported (nor is it scientifically disconfirmed either though) and, since it is based on faith, it would be better taught at home and at church. Basically, I think it should be mentioned as an alternate viewpoint (because again, what's wrong with showing kids there are multiple ideologies on a certain topic?), but teachers shouldn't be required to delve into Creationism in depth in science class because it's not a scientific theory.
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11-23-2009, 08:01 PM #23
I took an astronomy course in 2001, and the textbook they used did have a short segment on religious beliefs about the origin of the universe at the start of the chapter on Big Bang cosmology.
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11-23-2009, 08:41 PM #24
That's the most I would think appropriate. Just a couple of paragraphs showing there are other views out there. Anything beyond that would be overstepping bounds and better handled at home and/or church.
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11-24-2009, 12:02 PM #25
Gotta love CNN's take on this:
Hacked e-mails fuel climate change debate
An online debate over global warming science has broken out after an unknown hacker broke into the e-mail server at a prominent climate-research center, stole more than a thousand e-mails about global warming and posted them online.
Global warming skeptics are seizing on portions of the messages as evidence that scientists are colluding and warping data to fit the theory of global warming, but researchers say the e-mails are being taken out of context and just show scientists engaged in frank discussion.
Read through the whole thing, it's pretty funny/sad. They act like there was no debate whatsoever until these emails popped up and the only people who question global warming are "bloggers." And this is supposed to be journalism?
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11-24-2009, 04:48 PM #26
Not phased by facts and common sense, the Obama administration is moving on with their global warming agenda. In the end, this will be brushed under the "righ wing conspiracy" rug with the rest of the facts on global warming. Cap and Trade will get past and Al Gore and the other "green" people will make billions on a hoax.
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11-25-2009, 01:41 AM #27BANNED
Can you prove its an actual hoax? I mean the fact that the world is going down the toilet and an expedated rate is telling me there is something wrong and we are ignoring it, how about we fix what we are destroying instead of all this B.S. its real/not real. wether global warming factors into anything is a small mute point to the poisioning of the air and water, the slaughtering of species to the point of extinction, the raping of the rain forests among other things. these things cannot be argued as beeing pretty detremental to the world but then agin does anyone really care anymore, prob not....
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11-25-2009, 09:01 AM #28
I have made a similar point to this many times and basically people agree as long as it is free and they don't have to do anything significant about it.
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11-25-2009, 09:55 AM #29
People don't care. And why should they? The problem is that no one knows when their time is up, and if they did what can they do about it. I do not think one person will make much of a difference in Global warming, yes you can try. Just think, if your neighbor was so radical, left or right, that he ends the lives of your family. No matter if your Christian or Atheist. No one but a creator would know the outcome of where we are headed!
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11-25-2009, 12:34 PM #30
Can you prove its an actual hoax? I mean the fact that the world is going down the toilet and an expedated rate is telling me there is something wrong and we are ignoring it, how about we fix what we are destroying instead of all this B.S. its real/not real. wether global warming factors into anything is a small mute point to the poisioning of the air and water, the slaughtering of species to the point of extinction, the raping of the rain forests among other things. these things cannot be argued as beeing pretty detremental to the world but then agin does anyone really care anymore, prob not....
What does this have to do with Global Warming? This is the age old "if you don't believe in global warming you hate the environment and animals" lie. People need to seperate pollution from global warming because they are two separate things. I would prefer to spend trillions cleaning our water and land than trying to stop man made global warming that likely doesn't exist.
Global warming may exist (and has in the past), but in all likeliness there is nothing we can do unless we decide to destroy the sun. Have fun trying to get Bruce Willis to do that! :)
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Originally Posted by OnePimpTiger 
