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02-23-2010, 10:14 PM #1Hobby Insider Boss
Fake Patch Card - Stamkos Cup 58/99
Yesterday mwdonald (of Hobby Insider) sent me a picture of the fake and asked that I check on it. I did, and here is what I found.
The Original:
The Fake:
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02-23-2010, 11:01 PM #2
Thanks for all your great work with the Cup RC patch archives Jeremy. You have probably saved a lot of people, a lot of money.
It sucks that these losers keep ruining such nice cards though.
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02-24-2010, 02:35 PM #3
Thanks Jeremy.
Althought, thank UD for creating this problem. If you don't put white patches on the card to begin with from packs that cost $350+, it makes it too costly for the patch fakers to get their hands on the card in the first place.
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02-24-2010, 02:43 PM #4
How do you go about determining if these are fake or not other than it obviously not being a jersey from said players team.
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02-24-2010, 02:49 PM #5
OP can correct me if I am wrong, but I believe "gomaz" was at the Official "The Cup" packout..ie when Upper Deck puts each cards into the box and seals the box. He was able to take photographs of each of the cards prior to sealing. He has this in a database (somewhere) and he can then check, by serial number if the card is the same way it was at packout.
He obviously ran this procedure here and determined this was a fake. Top notch work if I may say so myself
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02-24-2010, 05:26 PM #6
I had the pic of the original card that was sold on the bay with an all white patch. Unfortunately, the repatched card appears to be #59/99 in the scan. So when it showed up on the bay again as a 4CL I didn't notice it was the same card. What makes all this worse is that a friend of mine is the one who bought this repatched card. I feel like it's my fault for not noticing the right serial number. I'm usually right on these repatched cards.
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02-24-2010, 05:35 PM #7
There is also a website, fakepatchreport.com or something like that, where you can document fake patches circulating through the hobby.
Don't know how much support one would get in saying that this is partly UD's fault as well, in putting solid white patches on $350 product (although I do agree I cannot stand opening such a high-end product and getting puke-blah-white swatches.) I only say that b/c this is why there is a 'premium' for unique patches...thus creating the opportunity for crooks to alter the card to better serve a monetary value. Its the almighty dollar, plain and simple. If a card can bring $100 in its current white patch state...or $500 in a unique swatch state...and if one has the ability to fool the eye (and buyer) in order to get that extra $400...you can best believe they are going to try. Of course we all know it is wrong, but who really stops them? Don't know if I have made a point...just stating what I feel.
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02-24-2010, 06:36 PM #8
I think the market is more to blame than UD. The collectors and investors are the ones who put big money on the aesthetics of the card, and not the card itself.
Of all the things we should be blaming UD for and/or asking them to fix as business practices, I don't think "please go in and make sure your high end product has no single color swatches" is or should be anywhere near the top of the list.
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02-24-2010, 08:35 PM #9
cprrect me if i am wrong but the fake looks like it is number 59 not 58, is there an original of card 59/99?? and if its the same as this then problem solved, if it is 58 as well then great work, but to my eyes those #s look different
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02-24-2010, 09:45 PM #10
Agreed, appears to me that one is 58/99 and the other is 59/99
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