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    Let's Have Some Fun - If the Licensees Have a Cap...

    OK here's your fun assignment for the weekend.

    For the sake of argument, let's assume that each licensee--Upper Deck and Panini--are restricted to 12 sets each. In 2009-10, Upper Deck has 23 products to roll out through the course of the year. They are:

    Artifacts
    Be A Player
    Black
    Black Diamond
    Champ's
    Collector's Choice
    Ice
    McDonald's
    MVP
    OPC Premier
    O-Pee-Chee
    O-Pee-Chee Metal
    Ovation
    SP Authentic
    SP Game Used
    SPx
    The Cup
    Trilogy
    Ultimate Collection
    Ultra
    Upper Deck 1
    Upper Deck 2
    Victory

    Like it or not, UD has already announced that Victory will continue next year, so you get 11 choices. You can axe whichever sets you like, and you are allowed to fold subsets into the other releases. When done, you should have 11 sets plus Victory plus whatever subsets you want to still see around in other products.

    Upper Deck has to do this as well, so who knows, maybe somebody's watching and will take our ideas into consideration.

    Have fun!

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    Great Idea man, here are my picks.

    1.Victory-I have to. mehh
    2.Ultimate Collection
    3.Sp Authentic
    4.Cup
    5.Upper Deck 1
    6.Upper Deck 2
    7.Black Diamond
    8.SP Game Used
    9.Artifacts
    10.Ice
    11.SPX
    12.Be A Player

    Not sure what I would combine from other sets, but I would definately want game night ticket, pride of nation and ice scripts
    Last edited by LALakers23; 03-29-2010 at 10:36 PM.

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    Okay, here we go:

    Low-End for kids:

    Victory - Mix between Victory, Collector's Choice, and MVP. You'd get the parallels of Collector's Choice (non-numbered), 1 numbered parallel per box, and either a JSY or AU (MVP).

    Mid-End:

    Artifacts - mixed with Champs, mini cards included. Instead of the thousands of parallels from Artifacts, make them mini cards, possibly have different versions, but maybe like 2 or 3 max. Replace Autofacts with mini autos. Add the Museum Pieces as case hits
    Be A Player - combine with SP Authentic, have the RCs be auto'd, ALL autos are hard-signed.
    Black Diamond - raise the price a bit to add some stuff from UD Black (Black Game Night Tickets and Black Pride of Nation)
    Ice - combine with Trilogy, add Ice Scripts and Frozen in Time, also add the EX inserts from Ultra
    O-Pee-Chee - just add the metal cards as part of the set in the first place
    SPx - same
    Upper Deck 1 - combine with Ultra, one top RC per box
    Upper Deck 2 - combine with Ultra, one top RC per box

    High-End:

    OPC Premier - same, but without Premier Stitchings
    The Cup - combine with SPGU, add Letter Marks and Number Marks, all of which are actually game used
    Ultimate Collection - same


    Didn't spend too much time on this, but I think this would be pretty good...

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    1. Victory - by force. Victory sucks and no one buys it.
    2. Ice - My favorite looking set every year. Most hate it cause the hits are usually weak but I keep it
    3. Trilogy/SPGU - They both suck. Combine em to make a crap product, but only one of them
    4. Artifacts/SPx - Nice product for a cheap price. I don't mind artifacts or SPx but combined would just be so much better.
    5. Black Diamond - Always a decent product. No reason to scrap it
    6. The Cup - It's not going anywhere and it's nice. Keep it.
    7. OPCP/Ultimate - Again both suck so just combine the two.
    8. Upper Deck 1 - UD staple and no way you get get rid of YGs. I feel the YG is the basic RC and love to have em
    9. Upper Deck 2 - Same as above
    10. Black - Decent high end product with some just awesome cards in it.
    11. SP Authentic - One of the few products of UD that I really like. Love FW Autos. Great set.
    12. Nothing. UD sucks. Viva la ITG!

    Scrap that crap champs. Worst product made currently.

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    OK, here's what I have:

    Low-End for the kiddies:
    1. Victory
    2. O-Pee-Chee - push release back to November/December so as to include all the opening-night rookies in a single set. They can keep or drop Metal/Metal X.
    3. MVP
    4. McDonald's

    The staple sets:
    5. Upper Deck 1
    6. Upper Deck 2
    7. Black Diamond
    **borrowed from Artifacts: Treasured Diamond Jerseys - parallels, patches, tags
    8. SP Authentic Game Used
    ** Increased game-used content
    ** Tiered hard-signed auto jersey RCs
    ** Incorporates much of the GU'd content from SPGU & SPx
    9. Ice
    ** From Trilogy: Frozen in Time, Ice Scripts, and Tundra Tandems/Trios

    High-End Sets
    10. Black
    ** From SPGU: Letter/Team/Nickname Marks
    11. Ultimate Collection
    12. The Cup

    I did a minor flip-flop while writing this up, as I originally had BAP pencilled in and no McDonald's (given the recent rumours and all) on my roster. But then I got to thinking about the mishap this year and it makes me wonder if the NHLPA may want to reconsider who they let handle the distribution of what is their set. So BAP goes to Panini and McDonald's still happens.

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    Keep:

    Victory
    MVP
    McDonald's
    O-Pee-Chee
    SP Authentic
    The Cup
    Upper Deck 1
    Upper Deck 2
    Black Diamond
    Ultimate Collection
    SPx


    Cut:

    Artifacts
    Be A Player
    Black
    Champ's
    Collector's Choice
    Ice
    OPC Premier
    O-Pee-Chee Metal
    Ovation
    SP Game Used
    Trilogy
    Ultra


    I have to admit, I had trouble coming up with 12 worth keeping. If the Ultimate Auto RC Shield 1/1's got moved to The Cup, I could do without Ultimate, and if I could certainly do without either Victory or MVP, but realistically this would shift UD away from the mainstream, and I don't see either on getting cut.

    My dream line-up, which falls outside of the parameters of this particular excercise, would be:

    UD1
    UD2
    McD(with the SSSSSP jerseys & autos)
    The Cup(including Ultimate Auto Shield 1/1's)

    with all the good inserts spread throughout UD 1&2, McD pretty much as it was in 2007-08, and The Cup having all the higher end inserts that are worth keeping.

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    First I think you would have to consider UD 1 & UD 2 and OPC/Metal as one set, as they are continuations of each other


    KEEP
    Be A Player
    Black Diamond
    Ice
    MVP
    OPC Premier
    O-Pee-Chee / metal
    SP Authentic
    The Cup
    Ultimate Collection
    Ultra
    Upper Deck 1 & 2
    Victory


    Some sets you just can't get rid of because they have been around so long (ie; Ultra, BAP,OPC,Ice).

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    I would Keep:

    Black Diamond
    Ice
    McDonald's
    MVP
    O-Pee-Chee
    SP Authentic
    SP Game Used
    The Cup
    UD Black
    Ultimate
    Upper Deck 1
    Victory

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    KEEP
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    SPX
    SPA
    SP game used
    Victory
    Be a Player
    UD1
    UD2
    OPC
    The Cup
    Ultimate Collection
    Ice
    Artifacts

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    Victory(but add the super script and Gold script parallels as well as GU and Auto) nothing said we couls not add to victory
    OPC(dump the Metal X and later to get the best RC's)
    Black Diamond
    Ultra
    Sp authentic
    Upper Deck 1
    Upper Deck 2
    SPX
    The Cup
    Ultimate Collection(Make RC's JSY as well as auto)
    UD Black
    Artifacts
    BAP

    There are certain Subsets i would try to fit in by dumping things from mentioned sets. I would like to see the Ice Scripts, Letter Marks, Team Marks ETC.

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