Kings Fans - Do You Want Kovy?

[gokingsgo24]

simmonds will make 1-2 million tops. no way he makes more money than quick or brown. and i also think doughty is gonna sign alot cheraper than most people think 4.5-5.5 no 6 or 7 mil a year.

[CSSports]

the argument against signing Kovalchuk is as follows...

1. too much money for him means we lose Johnson/Simmonds and maybe more in 2011-12
2. money could be used to get 2-3 players that we could use
3. kings aren't "one player away" so why make a splash for one player?
4. if you're going to spend that much money, why spend it on a wing?

i'm not necessarily saying DL shouldn't sign him, but i think every reason stated above is valid.

#2 - money could be used to get 2-3 players that we could use - THIS is exactly why the Kings have never had a legit shot at the Cup - THIS is what they have been doing since Gretzkt left - THIS is why Kings will never do much - They need to stop getting 2-3 average players when they need a elite scorer.....Except for Kopi, the Kings are full of 2nd, 3rd and 4th liner quality players....not saying that you dont need players like that but you need a real #1 line that will SCORE....one of the things the Kings lack

I have been driving this wagon for 2 years now so you know my answer...................

Microcosm of it all right here:

(insert Bob Miller's voice)

Kopitar across the line, pulls up, cross ice feed to Kovalchuk, one-time and........HE SCORES! (insert Staples train horn)

Beautiful pass from Anze Kopitar to Ilya Kovalchuk for the one timer and Kovlachuk buries it.

The Kings lead 4-0 on Kovalchuk's 2nd of the night and 37th of the year. (insert Randy Newman song now)

(Jim Fox)

Bob, Kovalchuk trails the play here and as soon as he senses Kopitar is gaining the zone, he finds the open ice, sets up and rips Kopitar's cross ice feed by Hiller.

The left handed Kopitar is able to open his body on the off wing and set up the right handed Kovalchuk on his off wing perfectly, putting the pass right between his skates in his wheelhouse. This is where that off wing is so dangerous when you have players of this caliber, a supremely talented set up man like Kopitar and a pure sniper like Kovalchuk.

Kovalchuk is now on pace for about 50 right now Bob, it's a match made in heaven by Dean Lombardi and CO. The K Brothers do it again and the Kings lead Anaheim 4-0 in the 2nd.

You forgot to somehow compare the situation to a situation in another sport since Foxy likes to do that alot




Honestly, I think DL should trade Johnson before his stock goes down....I dont see the dedication to the team....seems too many times its all about Jack Johnson.
I also dont get the warm & fuzzy feeling about Moller - he is too up and down...reminds me of another Frolov

How much can we get for Moller & Johnson?? enough for a solid D-man?

I also would like to see Teubert eventually in the line-up - This guy is a mean machine....A punisher the Kings have lacked in recent years....Too many forward walk all over our defense...We need someone who doesnt care about the name on the back of the jersey - just hits everyone the same....

[capt55]

L.A. needs a Superstar for there idenity, there's no Triple Crown Line, no Gretzky and no Cool Hand Luke, the team needs to have an idenity with everyone playing as a team, Kovalchuk would help, as far as JJ(TO ME HE IS OVER RATED) and Simmons they don't make up half the player Kovalchuk is, but I think he will end up somewhere else, just my 2 cents.

[gretzky99]

simmonds will make 1-2 million tops. no way he makes more money than quick or brown. and i also think doughty is gonna sign alot cheraper than most people think 4.5-5.5 no 6 or 7 mil a year.

i don't think simmonds will get more than Brown but he will get more than Quick. somewhere in between. remember, Quick signed a deal after 1/2 a season. Simmonds is more established than Quick was when he signed his deal.
i think somewhere around 5 years, $12M for Simmonds.

i think Doughty will sign a deal very similar to what Keith signed. he's a lot younger so he may get a little more. i really believe that if DL is going to sign anyone to a lifetime-type deal it will be Doughty.

i'd give him a DiPietro-type deal if he would take it.

[gretzky99]

this is Johnson's year. i think this is the year he breaks out. i think he'll score close to 50 points and be a plus player. he's underrated because he plays on the same blue line as Doughty. kind of like Brad Park to Bobby Orr.

the other thing that concerns me with Kovalchuk is that there hasn't been a team with a 50 goal scorer win a Cup since the lockout. teams that win have balanced scoring, not just one guy scoring.

look at Chicago - balanced scoring
Pittsburgh - the year they won they had balanced scoring. Crosby did all the scoring last year and they didn't get nearly as far
detroit - balanced up and down the lineup
carolina - definition of a balanced scoring team
anaheim - lots of scoring up and down the lineup

teams like washington (ovechkin) and ottawa (one scoring line) and san jose before this last year (one scoring line) don't have the balance needed to succeed in the playoffs.

the goal is not to be San Jose, it's to be Detroit. Detroit doesn't sign guys like Kovalchuk, San Jose does. Detroit drafts and develops players, commits to guys that are leaders (yzerman, lidstrom), play both ways (datsyuk, zetterberg), finds guys that crash the net (holmstrom, cleary) and builds from the blue line out (lidstrom, rafalski, kronwall, chelios, etc.)

san jose went for flash (thornton, heatley) at the expense of team and look where that has got them.

[Brodeur_fan666]

Think about what Kovalchuk would do in Washington's lineup.....

[kovyheater]

Kovalchuk will do wonders on any team. He is a franchise player who has been hidden in the South, playing for an inept GM and organization.

Back in 2005, I was SHOCKED Waddell passed on Kopitar to draft Alex Bourett.

I could only image what magic Kopitar and Kovy would have performed if Anze was drafted to the Thrashers.

Kovy wants to win the Cup. I think he will accpet $7.5 to 8M a season if there is a good chance to win in the enxt 2-3 years.

He may only accept a short term deal just to guarantee a shot in the future with another team if things don't go his way on a new team this summer.

I doubt Kovy will go to Washington, unless Ovechkin gives up the captaincy to Kovy, Kovy will not play under AO shadow.

I am quite excited to see where he lands on July 1. I hope he just doesn't bolt to the KHL for $14M tax-free / season.

I think he wants to win the Cup.

[cnshockey]

meh

[gokingsgo24]

didnt San Jose just kick detroits ™™™ all over the rink in the playoffs?

Detroit got lucky 2 times with zetterberg & datsyuk i dont think they have anyone else coming thru the ranks.

this is Johnson's year. i think this is the year he breaks out. i think he'll score close to 50 points and be a plus player. he's underrated because he plays on the same blue line as Doughty. kind of like Brad Park to Bobby Orr.

the other thing that concerns me with Kovalchuk is that there hasn't been a team with a 50 goal scorer win a Cup since the lockout. teams that win have balanced scoring, not just one guy scoring.

look at Chicago - balanced scoring
Pittsburgh - the year they won they had balanced scoring. Crosby did all the scoring last year and they didn't get nearly as far
detroit - balanced up and down the lineup
carolina - definition of a balanced scoring team
anaheim - lots of scoring up and down the lineup

teams like washington (ovechkin) and ottawa (one scoring line) and san jose before this last year (one scoring line) don't have the balance needed to succeed in the playoffs.

the goal is not to be San Jose, it's to be Detroit. Detroit doesn't sign guys like Kovalchuk, San Jose does. Detroit drafts and develops players, commits to guys that are leaders (yzerman, lidstrom), play both ways (datsyuk, zetterberg), finds guys that crash the net (holmstrom, cleary) and builds from the blue line out (lidstrom, rafalski, kronwall, chelios, etc.)

san jose went for flash (thornton, heatley) at the expense of team and look where that has got them.

[gretzky99]

didnt San Jose just kick detroits ™™™ all over the rink in the playoffs?

Detroit got lucky 2 times with zetterberg & datsyuk i dont think they have anyone else coming thru the ranks.

after years of Detroit domination San Jose did beat them this year. but Detroit was working with a rookie goalie and a team that was hurt most of the year.

San Jose is a team that has nothing coming. their team is two lines.

i would much rather copy the success of Detroit then throw money at guys who can't win. San Jose only got as far as they did because of Pavelski. they won't be so lucky this year.

i am not against signing Kovalchuk necessarily. i would offer him $65M over 10 years. that's a cap hit the Kings could work with and it would give Kovalchuk the long term big money deal he is looking for.

i wouldn't go a dime over a $7M cap hit. he's not worth it.