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    No way. I'm a Giants Fan and I still think he's #2 on the SF Giants list period.

    I heard a story from John Miller on the radio, who is the Giants Broadcaster and got inducted into the HOF in 2010, about Willie Mays in the 80s and being out in Spring Training, launching home runs to everyone's amazement. I believe Will Clark (Working for the SF Giants now) even backed up the story on the radio and said Willie would laugh at someone with a 32 ounce bat and he would pick up like a 36 or 40 ounce or something like that, and launch homeruns that made other Giants players shake their heads.

    And that woulda meant Willie Mays was in his mid 50's.

    45 HRs a .360 batting average and he had a OBP of .600, 6 out of 10 times he didnt get a chance for a home run...thats enough for me regardless of PED use (which i dont believe he used in 04)
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    Look, he admitted he took PEDs "unknowingly".

    PEDs help you launch balls further but it does not help you see the ball better. We all know this. Just look at the alleged Steroid Users that had Mark McGwire like Batting Averages. Even Canseco's magical 40-40 season pales in comparison to what Pujols or Bonds did.

    So with being said, this topic is on Greatest Home Run hitter, not greatest Hitter.

    BTW, your calculating things wrong. He had 617 Plate App. and was walked 232 times and was hit 9 times. Home Runs along with Base Hits, Walks, Hit By Pitch, SOs that hit the ground that you weren't tagged out for but made it to first, etc., correct me if I'm wrong, all counted towards your OBP.

    What the real statistic you should of said was over 1/3 of Barry Bonds plate opportunities he had in 2004, he didn't get a chance to Hit a Home Run because of them walking him.

    45 HRs a .360 batting average and he had a OBP of .600, 6 out of 10 times he didnt get a chance for a home run...thats enough for me regardless of PED use (which i dont believe he used in 04)


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    Greatest HR Hitter in my eyes has got to be Barry Bonds easily, PED's or not. Just a natural swing. But i've got to say, there was nothing like watching Mark Mcgwires & Cecil Fielders Towering Shots!

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    Greatest HR Hitter in my eyes has got to be Barry Bonds easily, PED's or not. Just a natural swing. But i've got to say, there was nothing like watching Mark Mcgwires & Cecil Fielders Towering Shots!

    Even after seeing Jimmie Foxx and his redwoods that he calls arms?



    I have to admit, other than Griffey Jr., Bonds has the best fluid swing I have ever seen because there wasn't a part of the plate you could pitch to him on. He also was more conscious of the plate than most typical home run hitters.

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    Your right about the plate apperance thing, I wasnt thinking when i did the 'math'..

    However, I'd still say he was the best power hitter, i'm only 18, and he's the best i've ever seen
    Look, he admitted he took PEDs "unknowingly".

    PEDs help you launch balls further but it does not help you see the ball better. We all know this. Just look at the alleged Steroid Users that had Mark McGwire like Batting Averages. Even Canseco's magical 40-40 season pales in comparison to what Pujols or Bonds did.

    So with being said, this topic is on Greatest Home Run hitter, not greatest Hitter.

    BTW, your calculating things wrong. He had 617 Plate App. and was walked 232 times and was hit 9 times. Home Runs along with Base Hits, Walks, Hit By Pitch, SOs that hit the ground that you weren't tagged out for but made it to first, etc., correct me if I'm wrong, all counted towards your OBP.

    What the real statistic you should of said was over 1/3 of Barry Bonds plate opportunities he had in 2004, he didn't get a chance to Hit a Home Run because of them walking him.


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    You need to go onto Youtube and watch and read about Willie Stargell, Willie Mays, Jimmie Foxx, etc.

    You gotta remember, AT&T park was built for Bonds. That short right field but with massive wind, was perfect for Bonds. No one can hit a ball there and constantly hit the water but for Bonds.

    Even the big boys that came there, couldn't do it.

    That's why Mickey is lower on my list because of Yankee Stadium's short fences. And why I consider Hank Aaron a little lower because of Atlanta County Fulton Stadium because it's nickname was "The Launching Pad".

    Guys who played in deep ball parks, I have a lot of respect for. Like Adrian Gonzalez. But guys like Todd Helton, Larry Walker, Andres Gallaraga, Ellis Burks, etc. will eventually be exposed because their heavy stats start at home.

    Your right about the plate apperance thing, I wasnt thinking when i did the 'math'..

    However, I'd still say he was the best power hitter, i'm only 18, and he's the best i've ever seen


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    dont forget Josh Gibson in this discussion- he never played in the majors, but had nearly 850 HRs in the negro leagues, according to the stats they have from his playing days!

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    In my honest opinion... Ken Griffey Jr was the best HR hitter in the history of baseball. NO ONE had a prettier swing than him... so fluid, so sweet... it was awesome just watching him bat. He single handedly brought a baseball market to Seattle...

    Barring all the injuries he had, it would be his name at the top of the all time HR record, not Bonds

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    dont forget Josh Gibson in this discussion- he never played in the majors, but had nearly 850 HRs in the negro leagues, according to the stats they have from his playing days!

    Yeah but if that was the case, Sadaharu Oh hit 868 homeruns but if you compare them to guys like Ruth, Aaron, Griffey, etc., the Pitching wasn't on par. The stadiums wasn't on par. The competition wasn't on par.

    In 1974, an almost 41 year old Hank Aaron outhomered a 34 year old Sadaharu Oh, 10-9. Just imagine what a 34 year old Aaron would do?

    And the scariest thing was, Hank Aaron wasn't even the most feared home run hitter of his era but he was the most consistent.

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