The bible - fact or fiction???

[habsheaven]

Most Christians I know don't believe in a literal seven day creation.

Have you asked them why they don't?

[Star_Cards]

I do not have a position as of yet on how the universe came to exist. I doubt I ever will, and I am okay with that. Afterall, it really isn't all that important. I am however open to ALL possibilities, but I am not going to believe anyone who tells me to have FAITH and just believe, especially after the track record religion has had over the years. No disrespect but, I think that is just foolish.

wishes this was my answer. :)

[AUTaxMan]

Have you asked them why they don't?

Not recently.

[Star_Cards]

If you don't think there is one, say so. But to your comment earlier, it seems to lead me to believe you think there is a God but your not sure what to believe.


As to the evolution comment above, yes, I think there is some truth to humans adapting to our culture in a sense. Different weather, sun conditions, immunities, etc but I believe God created us as human beings. Also there are some "gap theories" that could explain your thought of 7 days. Some Christian scholars say that God's 7 days aren't our literal 7 days. Etc. Read up on it.

There are also a lot of christians (not sure if they're scholars) that think dinosaurs roamed the earth with man. That's the issue. I find some people (not particularly in this thread) want the bible to be the end all be all and then other times they say there are gap theories that say it really wasn't so and that it was just a story.

I honestly don't have issue with anyone thinking they were created by a god. I just don't want to be legislated by rules of a religion.

[habsheaven]

Does it not take faith to believe what science tells you?

Please elaborate on the track record comment. What exactly do you mean?

Also, what is foolish, faith in the unknown in general, or faith based on the track record of religion?

For short periods of time, belief in new scientific discoveries is required but science always keeps moving forward. You only have to look at the advancements in medicine to see science at work.

Religion's track record from day one has been to dominate and persecute women and non-believers.

Faith in a concept that is thousands of years old yet still provides no FACTUAL evidence of it's existence is foolish. A logical person would choose to be non-commital to the concept until proof is provided.

[Star_Cards]

Most Christians I know don't believe in a literal seven day creation.

What is the most believed method if the seven day creation isn't widely believed?

[AUTaxMan]

What is the most believed method if the seven day creation isn't widely believed?

I don't know.

[Star_Cards]

I don't know.

okay, what is yours'?

[WilyWestbrook0]

Religion's track record from day one has been to dominate and persecute women and non-believers.

This argument holds as much weight as when believers say Stalin's non-belief caused him to endorse the death of millions - in other words, none. Regardless of religion, or lack thereof, there are going to be humans who dominate and persecute anyone different from them, whether it be race, different political beliefs, sexual orientation, etc. There are ALL KINDS of people who follow their religion quietly and don't persecute others who believe differently. I'm a female believer engaged to an agnostic, BTW; I don't feel "persecuted" and neither does he (in fact, we really like each other ).

[AUTaxMan]

For short periods of time, belief in new scientific discoveries is required but science always keeps moving forward. You only have to look at the advancements in medicine to see science at work.

People have put decades of belief in accepting theories such as the big bang, evolution, and relativity as scientific fact.

Religion's track record from day one has been to dominate and persecute women and non-believers.

That may be true in many cases, but that doesn't make it right, and it is certainly not a practice that Jesus would have condoned. It is unfair to categorize the Christian religion as one that generally persecutes non-believers because of the bad acts of a relative few.

Faith in a concept that is thousands of years old yet still provides no FACTUAL evidence of it's existence is foolish. A logical person would choose to be non-commital to the concept until proof is provided.

A logical person would not assume that all things can be proven scientifically.