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04-25-2011, 03:51 PM #81
Simply stated, God created the universe out of nothing over a period of millions of years, and God created man.
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04-25-2011, 03:53 PM #82
Yes, but not as the first intended woman....I believe God created Lilith first with her own free will, and she would not give to the demands of Adam, which let her be cast out of Eden in which God made Eve using Adam......and yeah it does seem far fetched, and could totally be wrong but its what I believe.......
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04-25-2011, 03:53 PM #83
Do you personally believe the adam and eve story as how man was started?
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04-25-2011, 03:54 PM #84
This argument holds as much weight as when believers say Stalin's non-belief caused him to endorse the death of millions - in other words, none. Regardless of religion, or lack thereof, there are going to be humans who dominate and persecute anyone different from them, whether it be race, different political beliefs, sexual orientation, etc. There are ALL KINDS of people who follow their religion quietly and don't persecute others who believe differently. I'm a female believer engaged to an agnostic, BTW; I don't feel "persecuted" and neither does he (in fact, we really like each other
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I disagree. When are we going to see the first female Pope. Why is it God created Man first and then created woman "for" man afterwards? If that isn't the "Old Boys Network", I do not know what is.
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04-25-2011, 03:59 PM #85
When are we going to see the first woman president? When are we going to see men stop making fun of women's sports with loads of snide, arrogant comments? When are people going to stop assuming I like shoes and Twilight just because I'm a woman? When are we going to see women treated decently in nations where there is no organized religion but vague nature and idol worship? Sorry, but inherent sexism is all over the place even when religion as commonly defined is completely absent from the picture. It's not limited to religion no matter how much you try to stretch it.
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04-25-2011, 04:03 PM #86
This argument holds as much weight as when believers say Stalin's non-belief caused him to endorse the death of millions - in other words, none. Regardless of religion, or lack thereof, there are going to be humans who dominate and persecute anyone different from them, whether it be race, different political beliefs, sexual orientation, etc. There are ALL KINDS of people who follow their religion quietly and don't persecute others who believe differently. I'm a female believer engaged to an agnostic, BTW; I don't feel "persecuted" and neither does he (in fact, we really like each other).
I don't think he's saying that there aren't other ways that people would dominate or persecute outside of religion... of course there are, but religion has quite a few towards outsiders and within their own religion. I find it odd that someone would believe a religion if that organization itself has ways to limit people within.
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04-25-2011, 04:14 PM #87
I do. I struggled with that one for a long time, but that is what I believe.
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04-25-2011, 04:23 PM #88
Every organization has limits within if we're going to be that general. Eve coming from Adam doesn't make her inferior any more than a baby coming from a mother makes the baby inferior. As for church positions, so? There are positions where you have to reach a certain age to do, or obtain a certain amount of college education to attain, etc. Does any of that mean that people who aren't of that particular status are all inferior or that they are being persecuted against? No. BTW, it's very annoying as woman to see guys insist to me that I believe something that is allegedly degrading to me. I wouldn't believe something that I felt was degrading to me, and I resent being told this; I've made that decision myself.
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04-25-2011, 04:33 PM #89
I feel that I would think it degraded me if I were a women and followed the religion. That's to say that you have to. It's up to each person to decide if something offends them or not. I would hope that no one one would follow something if they thought it was degrading. Obviously you don't have issue with it so that's all that matter for yourself.
I don't have issue with limits or goals being placed, but to have a hard fast rule that a specific sex can't be something is a bit odd to be if that person passes the needed guidelines (educational, age or what have you.)
I never say eve as being inferior when hearing the story myself, but I can see where people read into that.
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04-25-2011, 05:01 PM #90
have you ever heard the lords prayer? In my opinion the reasons why these believers who pray for results that are in there favor is because they are human. The bible is about faith, it shows through history how in times of tribulations there's a stronger power that brings those people through, either it being by acts or by miracles. It's up to us to have faith and believe that there are reasons why things happen.
Our Father, who art in heaven,
hallowed be thy name.
Thy Kingdom come,
thy will be done,
on earth as it is in heaven
Give us this day our daily bread.
And forgive us our trespasses,
as we forgive those who trespass against us.
And lead us not into temptation,
but deliver us from evil.
For thine is the kingdom, the power and the glory. for ever and ever. Amen
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