The bible - fact or fiction???

[habsheaven]

You may not agree with it, but don't be disrespectful.

How could I agree or not agree? I have no idea what he meant by the comment. A little humour in a discussion like this doesn't need to be taken as disrespect.

[gatorboymike]

I can boil down your whole thing to one sentence. "I came across "Christians" and they didn't know much about their religion, so they got mad and started gettting defensive."

What a ludicrous oversimplification. That might have been their problem, but you apparently ignored everything I had to say on the subject. Nice use of air-quotes there too; nice No True Scotsman fallacy. I explained my views on the subject not just because of some mad, defensive reactions I got from random Christians off the street, but also because that's what supposedly reputable and enlightened Christian organizations use in their official literature and propaganda. In other words, the things I quoted them as saying is not just the defensive sputterings of people caught off guard, it's official doctrine that is being reproduced and propagated by well-financed individuals with a vast audience and a shady agenda. And for you to attempt to dismiss that in such a way indicates that you're either unaware of what your co-religionists are doing, or you do know and you're playing coverup for them.

But why do we need to prove the existance of our God when their has never been something about the Bible debunked? If you wanna go against the "Head" of our religion (i.e. That Jesus/God doesn't exist), shouldn't you work your way up to that and try to disprove the smaller things?

Hah, I needed a good laugh. Never been anything about the Bible debunked? Hilarious. It's not my fault if you can't admit your Bible isn't 100% accurate and literal. And if you can't admit that, there's really nothing else to say.

And I've already explained why I don't believe in your god. You obviously didn't read my explanation. So I'm not going to bother taking the time to elaborate if you're not going to bother to take the time to listen.

[AUTaxMan]

I explained my views on the subject not just because of some mad, defensive reactions I got from random Christians off the street, but also because that's what supposedly reputable and enlightened Christian organizations use in their official literature and propaganda. In other words, the things I quoted them as saying is not just the defensive sputterings of people caught off guard, it's official doctrine that is being reproduced and propagated by well-financed individuals with a vast audience and a shady agenda.

I tried to find what you were talking about here, but I must have missed it.

It's not my fault if you can't admit your Bible isn't 100% accurate and literal. And if you can't admit that, there's really nothing else to say.

What inaccuracies are you talking about? The 7-day thing, or was it something else?

[gatorboymike]

I tried to find what you were talking about here, but I must have missed it.

The things about "Can you prove there's no god" and "atheists have faith there's no god."

What inaccuracies are you talking about? The 7-day thing, or was it something else?

That, and pretty much all of Genesis, as well as assorted things throughout the document. I'm pretty sure a complete index of all the "scientific" claims the Bible makes which have been debunked wouldn't be hard to find.

[AUTaxMan]

The things about "Can you prove there's no god" and "atheists have faith there's no god."

That, and pretty much all of Genesis, as well as assorted things throughout the document. I'm pretty sure a complete index of all the "scientific" claims the Bible makes which have been debunked wouldn't be hard to find.

I was more interested in specifics. Official literature and such with respect to the former, and more than "pretty much all of Genesis" for the latter. You know, specifics, as opposed to generalizations.

[Theodor Madison]

So little do we know about the bible. Whether we believe it to be fact or fiction. of god or Should not, the question, Why do we exist be asked?, before we denounce anything. What is exactly the purpose of man.

Who are we to question anything? If we tend to know all the answers why ask questions. If we tend to think, all we are in the universe is a speck, That's all we are.

[AUTaxMan]

So little do we know about the bible. Whether we believe it to be fact or fiction. of god or Should not, the question, Why do we exist be asked?, before we denounce anything. What is exactly the purpose of man.

Who are we to question anything? If we tend to know all the answers why ask questions. If we tend to think, all we are in the universe is a speck, That's all we are.

Boy does the horror they experienced in Tuscaloosa and Pleasant Grove, AL today remind me of that. Those people need prayers in a major way.

[mrveggieman]

Boy does the horror they experienced in Tuscaloosa and Pleasant Grove, AL today remind me of that. Those people need prayers in a major way.

I agree with that 100%. We should all offer our prayers regardless of our religious beliefs. If you are an atheist please have a moment of silence for the victims.

[mrveggieman]

Here is another question that I want to post for our christian bretheren out there but anyone with an opinion is welcome to give it. In the book of leviticus homosexuality is prohibited and that is what a lot of christians go by. I am ok with that but levicitus also clearly gives a list of dietary restrictions including bans on eating pork, certian seafoods and birds. Also Genesis 1:29 implies that God wants us to go on a vegetarian diet. "And God said , Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat." However a lot of Christians choose to ignore that part. My question is why do people pick and choose certian parts of the bible to go by and ignore the rest? Please don't take this as a knock on christians or anyone else I'm just trying to get thoughts and imput.

[habsheaven]

Here is another question that I want to post for our christian bretheren out there but anyone with an opinion is welcome to give it. In the book of leviticus homosexuality is prohibited and that is what a lot of christians go by. I am ok with that but levicitus also clearly gives a list of dietary restrictions including bans on eating pork, certian seafoods and birds. Also Genesis 1:29 implies that God wants us to go on a vegetarian diet. "And God said , Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat." However a lot of Christians choose to ignore that part. My question is why do people pick and choose certian parts of the bible to go by and ignore the rest? Please don't take this as a knock on christians or anyone else I'm just trying to get thoughts and imput.

As you can see from this thread, they don't necessarily pick and choose. Some passage the take at "face value", others they develop "elaborate interpretations" to conform with the values of today's society.