The bible - fact or fiction???

[mrveggieman]

I don't think I understand what you are getting at here. Secrets about what?

Google ziegist the movie.

[AUTaxMan]

Google ziegist the movie.

Do you honestly believe that nonsense, that Jesus' very existence was all one big conspiracy?

[sanfran22]

Speaking of everyone's favorite book in the bible Leviticus here's another question that I have.
In the King James Version, Leviticus 18:22 is translated: "Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination." Again I understand exactly what it is saying and have no problem with it. The verse deals with a form of sexual immorality (homosexuality). My question is why do people pound homosexuality as wrong into the ground but barely mention other forms of sexual immorality such as adultrey or having sex out of wedlock. Also why do some preachers act like homosexuality is worse than child rape or murder? I mean c'mon now. Yes it is a sin but I would think that raping a child would be worse than having consensual sex with another adult.

They are all wrong.....

[AUTaxMan]

They are all wrong.....

Agreed.

[sanfran22]

Can we get into the specifics of their "re-location"?

How did He transport these people to these different worldly locales?

How did they survive in a new land (let's say the Arctic) when they were used to a climate found in the Middle East?

Why did some of these people begin worshipping Mother Earth and Father Sky, while others worshipped a Sun God?

How did He determine who didn't have to get uprooted?

Is this starting to sound absurd?

I'll ask those questions one day for you, or maybe you can ask them yourself

[Wudeverbro]

Well, im going to chime in. Im studying to be a youth pastor. Gods sovreign will and our free will work together in ways we dont understand. I do think he is omnisciene but I think we have free will to a certain extent. I think Jesus Chris died on the cross and rose on the third day. Your free will comes into whether you place your faith in Jesus/God. The Death on the Cross was sufficient for all, but efficient for some(who choose). I beleive in the Trinity, God, Son, Holy Spirit. Just my two cents, going to stop for now.

Well said man.

[sanfran22]

To the person that asked about the murderer awhile back. If that murderer confessed his sins and accepted Jesus before he was killed, he would be in heaven regardless of his horrible life. Only God would know his heart and if he was truly sincere, but if he was he would be saved.
Reminds me of the Dahmer story. Not sure if true, or what his heart's intent was. But supposedly he accepted Christ in prison. If true, he will be standing with God in heaven with all the rest of us saved christians despite his life of wickedness......

[sanfran22]

well said man.

+2

[mrveggieman]

Do you honestly believe that nonsense, that Jesus' very existence was all one big conspiracy?

I'm not going to go as far as suggesting that Jesus did not exist but I am going to say that the people who run the church have the same flaws as everyone else and there's no way that I'm going to believe that there are no secrets or corruption inside of the chruch.

[AUTaxMan]

I'm not going to go as far as suggesting that Jesus did not exist but I am going to say that the people who run the church have the same flaws as everyone else and there's no way that I'm going to believe that there are no secrets or corruption inside of the chruch.

Can't that be said of any organization? Humans have flaws, and people keep secrets. The church is no different, but its imperfection is certainly no reason to reject it.