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    I didn't say all Muslims were like that. I don't think anyone has a "right" to a "proper burial," so it doesn't really matter to me. I would prefer in cases of mass murderers like these guys that they be buried in the least dignified way possible that doesn't directly incite some other lunatic to start killing Americans.

    It dosent really how they were buried a fanatic is going to be a fanatic. It's too bad that he was caught alive I would have love for the feds to interrogate him so we could get a glimpse inside his mind. But if he was killed bring him back to the United States show us the body then take him to israel and burn the body and bury the ashes with pig waste. That would be a decent burial for him as well as hitler.
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    I would have wanted Osama to have been captured alive as well, so that he could look into the faces of all the surviving family members of those he had a hand in murdering. It probably would have taken an entire stadium for that but that would have been a reality check for someone talks a big game but uses people in his inner circle as a human shield.

    Regardless of what we think Osama deserves, he will get what is coming to him for eternity. That's enough for me personally.

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    The "Christian Love" is really flyin' outta here tonight.

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    The "Christian Love" is really flyin' outta here tonight.


    The hottest places in hell are reserved for people like bin Laden regardless of what religion you follow.

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    I doubt GBM believes in hell or any afterlife, so he probably doesn't have an opinion on the matter.

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    I doubt GBM believes in hell or any afterlife, so he probably doesn't have an opinion on the matter.

    I won't speak for GBM, but I prefer to institute a little man-made Hell on individuals like Osama before they meet their maker, just in case.

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    The hottest places in hell are reserved for people like bin Laden regardless of what religion you follow.

    Unless people like bin Laden are actually the ones whose religion is true, in which case the hottest places in hell are reserved for non-Muslims. They have just as much to back up their story as you do to support yours. You can hash it out with them as to whose hell is the real one and what one must do to avoid going there all you like, it won't make any difference. Meanwhile, to nonbelievers like me, this all looks identical to a bunch of D&D geeks arguing about whose character would win in a fight.

    Justice has to be done in the here and now. Otherwise, there is no justice. You guys are the ones who are commanded to love thine enemy and turn the other cheek. Although in cases like this, perhaps we're fortunate that those are the two commands of Jesus' that Christians follow least of all. What kind of national security policy would that make?

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    Unless people like bin Laden are actually the ones whose religion is true, in which case the hottest places in hell are reserved for non-Muslims. They have just as much to back up their story as you do to support yours. You can hash it out with them as to whose hell is the real one and what one must do to avoid going there all you like, it won't make any difference. Meanwhile, to nonbelievers like me, this all looks identical to a bunch of D&D geeks arguing about whose character would win in a fight.

    Justice has to be done in the here and now. Otherwise, there is no justice. You guys are the ones who are commanded to love thine enemy and turn the other cheek. Although in cases like this, perhaps we're fortunate that those are the two commands of Jesus' that Christians follow least of all. What kind of national security policy would that make?

    I have studied the Koran just like I have studied the Bible and please correct me if I'm wrong but no where in either of those great books does it command that it's readers murder innocent people. So assuming that Christanity and or Islam is the correct religion and if bin Landen was in any way responsible for 9-11-01 and did not get right by God before meeting his demise he has one of those hot spots waiting for him. I do agree however that he should be punished her on earth before he has to answer to God for what he did. I do also believe that there is nothing that can be done to him on earth that will be greater than the wrath that God can put on him.

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    Also check out this article. The first five points were on point. I'm not going to disagree nor agree with the 6th point because you can neither scientifically prove nor disprove a particular religion.

    http://www.everystudent.com/features/isthere.html
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    You guys are the ones who are commanded to love thine enemy and turn the other cheek. Although in cases like this, perhaps we're fortunate that those are the two commands of Jesus' that Christians follow least of all. What kind of national security policy would that make?

    I believe you are referring to this scripture:

    "Do not resist him who is evil; but whoever slaps you on your right cheek, turn to him the other also. And if anyone wants to sue you, and take your shirt, let him have your coat also. And whoever shall force you to go one mile, go with him two." Matthew 5:39-41

    Jesus here isn't telling us to let evil steamroll us. He is telling us to overcome evil with good. These verses come from the sermon on the mount, where Jesus uses hyperbole (yes, Jesus used hyperbole and illustrations as a primary teaching tool throughout the gospels) to illustrate his points and tell us what our primary dispositions should be. Jesus himself drove thieves out of the temple with a whip in John.

    However, the Bible justifies nations going to war and governments punishing evildoers.

    "For rulers are not a cause of fear for good behavior, but for evil. Do you want to have no fear of authority? Do what is good, and you will have praise from the same; for it is a minister of God to you for good. But if you do what is evil, be afraid; for it does not bear the sword for nothing; for it is a minister of God, an avenger who brings wrath upon the one who practices evil." Romans 13:3-4

    "Submit yourselves for the Lord's sake to every human institution, whether to a king as the one in authority, or to governors as sent by him for the punishment of evildoers and the praise of those who do right." 1 Peter 2:13-14

    Thus, it is not inconsistent with the teachings of the Bible for nations to go to war and to punish evildoers. We re to love our enemies on a personal level, but it is appropriate for us to fight those governments/terrorist groups who want to overtake us.

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