Official Monday Night Raw & Smackdown Thread

[etmill01]

Loved seeing Piper back, only thing I didn't like was Miz compareing himself to Piper cuz he can't hold a candle to em in any way....and yea Miz is getting buried big time....but guess thats the breaks to the guy who was champ when they lose aton of money

There is no way Miz can even come close to Piper, Austin, Rock etc...I just love the fact he was claimed to have been susch a great champ by alot of people and now he is getting buried...Maybe before too long he will be on the same boat as Zack Ryder and we won't have to see him on tv at all....Ed

[Apocalypz26]

I never said Miz was a great champion but I do still believe that he makes for a very good heel. I think he did a good job as champion though when he was given the opportunity (as WWE admitted which is why he held onto the title longer than original planned)...but I think the only comparison between Miz and Piper is that they really did look alike when they were both next to each other lol

[detroittigerfan76]

Ryder miz punk an r-truth =ratings an entertainment

Super cena cheerleader orton an sin cara = boredom
just my two cents lol

[brandonbarnett]

I never said Miz was a great champion but I do still believe that he makes for a very good heel. I think he did a good job as champion though when he was given the opportunity (as WWE admitted which is why he held onto the title longer than original planned)...but I think the only comparison between Miz and Piper is that they really did look alike when they were both next to each other lol

I know what your saying, it just kinda stuck me the wrong way to even let the miz compare himself to piper, Piper is one of the greatest heels of all time and imo the miz is equal to IRS except for IRS had alot more in ring talent......

[brandonbarnett]

Ryder miz punk an r-truth =ratings an entertainment

Super cena cheerleader orton an sin cara = boredom
just my two cents lol

R-Truth hasn't even began to draw yet wait til JoMo gets back thats gonna blow up huge if they do it right......I agree Cena is a lil boring now but he is there mainly for the kids I think......
CM Punk is/was/can be the greatest superstar of this era if he is done right....
Miz is bland and blah
Ryder is a jobber
Orton is a workhorse but not a good main event face imo
Sin Cara has a amazing move set but the need to put him in matchs that make sense for who he is which might change soon as they have a couple of more masked luchas signed

[etmill01]

R-Truth hasn't even began to draw yet wait til JoMo gets back thats gonna blow up huge if they do it right......I agree Cena is a lil boring now but he is there mainly for the kids I think......
CM Punk is/was/can be the greatest superstar of this era if he is done right....
Miz is bland and blah
Ryder is a jobber
Orton is a workhorse but not a good main event face imo
Sin Cara has a amazing move set but the need to put him in matchs that make sense for who he is which might change soon as they have a couple of more masked luchas signed

I agree with everything you said...Ed

[MCXC1987]

Thats the WWE being scared of the youth movement that the pushed so long ago. Look at all these young guys in the main event picture, Wade, Miz, Sheamus, Dolph. They build them up, then get cold feet and here we are back to where it always is. Orton and Cena. Wade was one of the biggest heels in the business and had the best momentum going in recent history with the Nexas....but then they had to have Cena join them....and Wades first title is an intercontinental championship? RIIIIIIIIIIIGHT

[duwal]

They don't sell out their merchandise though, do they?

Loud cheers + selling out merchadise + charisma + good worker + mic skills = deserving of a push

they kind of need to know how to wrestle too but the fact is if they are content with the response he is getting now why change it? If he's at the bottom tier and his merchandise is sold out you're not going to sell more if he has a title opportunity

[gladdyontherise]

Loved seeing Piper back, only thing I didn't like was Miz compareing himself to Piper cuz he can't hold a candle to em in any way....and yea Miz is getting buried big time....but guess thats the breaks to the guy who was champ when they lose aton of money

See this would make sense if it were true, considering Vince McMahon himself only praises Miz and mentions how he gets so much good publicity for the company...

Don't worry guys, when he finishes this stuff up with Alex Riley, he'll be right back to main eventing!

Besides Miz has a WWE championship reign that lasted a long time in todays standards. Piper never won a WWE championship, therefore

Miz > Piper

[gladdyontherise]

I know what your saying, it just kinda stuck me the wrong way to even let the miz compare himself to piper, Piper is one of the greatest heels of all time and imo the miz is equal to IRS except for IRS had alot more in ring talent......

He clearly did his job as a heel then...The fact that all of you hate Miz means he does his job well, those of us who just like to be entertained will love what he does regardless because its entertaining.