Abortion. Should it be legal or not

[mrveggieman]

Hello readers. I wanted to start this topic because I saw that there was a debate on this on another thread. My spin on the issue is that abortion is wrong and should not be legal unless of case or rape, incest or if the mother's life is in danger. However conservatives don't jump for joy yet. I do also believe that their should be comprehensive manditory sex education in school and the schools as well as health clinics should give out free contraceptives as well as sex education counseling. Mabey if we would invest more in preventing unwanted pregnancies women wouldn't have to chose weather to have an abortion or not.

[sanfran22]

Wow, I somewhat agree with you on something. As far as the education, not sure how much thats gonna help. Parents need to be parents again and teach their children.

[mrveggieman]

Wow, I somewhat agree with you on something. As far as the education, not sure how much thats gonna help. Parents need to be parents again and teach their children.

Wow this is indeed a sign of the end times when the two of us can actually agreee on something. Parents do need to be parents but I do have a problem with parents trying to shelter their kids and other kids who are not theirs from the real world by promoting this abstinence only nonsense. If you are teaching kids about the dangers of drugs you are not going to teach them just say no without teaching them about what the drugs are and what damages they do. The same goes for sex. Show them all sides of the spectrum like what happens when you catch an std or what it is like to have an abortion. Also plan field trips to hospitals and have guest speakers who are young unwed mothers and people who have contracted HIV. Tell them that abstinence is the best way to go but if you do here's how to reduce the risk but nothing is 100% guaranteed. I'm not saying go out and show kids XXX movies but be frank and honest with them about sex and truthfully answer any questions that they may have. I would rather the schoolboard not even waste their time or our tax dollars if all they are going to do is promote abstinence only.

[Star_Cards]

I definitely agree that sex education needs to be increased. No matter if you talk about it or not, the human body is going to go through puberty. There will always be kids that make bad choices when it comes to sex, but I think education and not treating sex as a taboo subject can only help keep some from these mistakes. When going through puberty everyone is going to start to have sexual feelings whether people are talking to them about it or not. It's better to give that knowledge to let them make more informed decisions. Abstinence teaching is all well and good and kids talk about sex at very early ages so you might as well give them all of the correct information as possible.

As far as abortion, I think it should be legal, but I'm not sure I would have or would consider it if I found myself in a position where it would even be considered. I do think there should be strict timing limits to it though as far as when it no longer becomes an option.

[scottkoz20]

This is one of the few policital topics that I have an EXTREMELY strong opinion on.

Abortion should only be legal for the cases that was mentioned above (rape, incest or danger to the mother's life). As someone that is adopted and also has adopted a child, awareness needs to the possibility of adoption also needs to be educated upon in addition to SexEd.

There are a great many people that do not have the ability to have children for a number of reasons.

[Star_Cards]

great point on the adoption side. Adoption can be a great option for many people if someone has an unwanted pregnancy.

I'll also add that it's not that hard to have sex and not get a woman pregnant. lol

Side question along the topic lines... do you think shows like MTVs "16 and pregnant" and "Teen Mom" tend to be a good or bad thing?

[mrveggieman]

great point on the adoption side. Adoption can be a great option for many people if someone has an unwanted pregnancy.

I'll also add that it's not that hard to have sex and not get a woman pregnant. lol

Side question along the topic lines... do you think shows like MTVs "16 and pregnant" and "Teen Mom" tend to be a good or bad thing?

I hate reality tv and refuse to watch any of that garbage. As far if I think these shows are good or bad it depends on the mentality of the viewer. Some girls may watch it and think that it's cute to have a baby at a young age. Others may see that and will not want to touch a baby with a ten foot pole.

[scottkoz20]

great point on the adoption side. Adoption can be a great option for many people if someone has an unwanted pregnancy.

I'll also add that it's not that hard to have sex and not get a woman pregnant. lol

Side question along the topic lines... do you think shows like MTVs "16 and pregnant" and "Teen Mom" tend to be a good or bad thing?

The act itself is not, but when you fire "blanks"...


Those shows make me puke because they tend to glorify being a mother. Nothing like having a "role-model" being a 17 yr.old mom living off the system (but this is a problem with Television at this point which is a different discussion).

[Star_Cards]

The act itself is not, but when you fire "blanks"...


Those shows make me puke because they tend to glorify being a mother. Nothing like having a "role-model" being a 17 yr.old mom living off the system (but this is a problem with Television at this point which is a different discussion).

I've never been tested so I guess I could be firing blanks. lol I'd say odds are that I'm not.

I completely disagree with you about those shows glorifying teenage motherhood/parenthood. I've actually watched both season's of Teen Mom and it does nothing close to glorifying it. These young parents (mothers) have a tough life trying to raise a child at such a young age and sometimes by themselves. I'd think it would be difficult to create a reality show that glorifies teenage parenthood or single teenage parenthood. As far as these girls on the show, most aren't living off of the system or at least not completely as I'm sure some may get some sort of assistance. A lot of them have help from their parents and have jobs and some even go to school.

As far as role models goes, I don't think just because someone is on TV that they are made a role model. Sure these girls and their boyfriends made a mistake, but most of them on the show have battled through a tough situation when some of their BFs ran. The fact that they made a bad decision doesn't mean they can't come back from that and be a role model because of what they do after they've made that error. What they do after the mistake is what you should look at.

I think the show bring a topic to the forefront and makes it a conversation piece more than it typically is. They also toss in Dr Drew to weigh in on things. I find them entertaining but also a large public service announcement.

[andrewhoya]

scott brought up a great point. If you are aborting for no reason, why even do it? Hundreds of people would love to have a nice, healthy baby. And who knows, maybe something crazy will happen later in your life and your long-lost child somehow saves your lfie.