Cavs/Wolves Blockbuster....

[garnett_21]

He's only been in a couple years, but is it safe to call David Kahn the worst basketball GM ever?

Nope - McHale still tops my list. He screwed the Wolves out of 5 years of first round picks, something that Kahn has yet to do. He also sign KG to such a large contract, which KG did NOT want, and expressed his concern with it often, that screwed the team over from getting any decent free agent talent for 6 years. Kahn has made some dumb trades (from the outside looking in, at least) - McHale screwed the entire franchise for a decade plus.

[asujbl]

He's only been in a couple years, but is it safe to call David Kahn the worst basketball GM ever?

In the past 14 months David Kahn has done the following

Drafted 3 PG's in the first round
Signed 2 PG's for 32 million
Traded for 2 PG's

And now Jonny Flynn is hurt - so Kahn will probably want to get another one.

Just saying.

[garyg21]

I like the moves Kahn has made as a t-wolves fan... sessions was terrible and hollins was just athletic.. no basketball skills at all outside of dunking

[GilbertArenas0]

Nope - McHale still tops my list. He screwed the Wolves out of 5 years of first round picks, something that Kahn has yet to do. He also sign KG to such a large contract, which KG did NOT want, and expressed his concern with it often, that screwed the team over from getting any decent free agent talent for 6 years. Kahn has made some dumb trades (from the outside looking in, at least) - McHale screwed the entire franchise for a decade plus.

McHale was the one that drafted KG lol, I think that was pretty good imo. And of course you're supposed to lock up your star player, when you have a top 5 player, you do whatever you can to keep him on your team. The T'Wolves only lost 3 1st round draft picks, and they would've been low 1st round draft picks anyways. Sammy and Spree were good moves, got the T'Wolves to the conference finals. McHale has made positive moves at least, can't be said about Kahn. McHale ain't the best GM ever, he definitely ain't the worst.

[garnett_21]

McHale was the one that drafted KG lol, I think that was pretty good imo. And of course you're supposed to lock up your star player, when you have a top 5 player, you do whatever you can to keep him on your team. The T'Wolves only lost 3 1st round draft picks, and they would've been low 1st round draft picks anyways. Sammy and Spree were good moves, got the T'Wolves to the conference finals. McHale has made positive moves at least, can't be said about Kahn. McHale ain't the best GM ever, he definitely ain't the worst.

He was? Wow, that's news to me...and yes, you are supposed to lock up your star player - but when the player HIMSELF is saying "that's too much", you listen and act accordingly. KG knew that the money he would be getting (and ultimately ended up getting) would prevent the team from signing good free agents - and that's why they were a first-round exit year after year after year. As for the draft picks, they had originally lost 5, but regained 2 - and so what if they would've been low picks or not? We had NO opportunity to draft decent young players for several years, thanks to McHale. He made a few decent moves, but most of those were overshadowed by his lack of braincells in regards to adding players from outside the organization. Kahn may not be making stellar moves, but at least he is looking towards the future somewhat by trading for younger players/cap space, and more importantly, not throwing draft picks into the crapper.

[asujbl]

He was? Wow, that's news to me...and yes, you are supposed to lock up your star player - but when the player HIMSELF is saying "that's too much", you listen and act accordingly. KG knew that the money he would be getting (and ultimately ended up getting) would prevent the team from signing good free agents - and that's why they were a first-round exit year after year after year. As for the draft picks, they had originally lost 5, but regained 2 - and so what if they would've been low picks or not? We had NO opportunity to draft decent young players for several years, thanks to McHale. He made a few decent moves, but most of those were overshadowed by his lack of braincells in regards to adding players from outside the organization. Kahn may not be making stellar moves, but at least he is looking towards the future somewhat by trading for younger players/cap space, and more importantly, not throwing draft picks into the crapper.

Drafting 3 PG's in the 1st round is throwing draft picks into the crapper

Drafting Wesley Johnson, when everyone knew Cousins was much better, is not utlizing your ability to add talent. Wesley might be very solid - Minnesota can't take "solid" they need all-star level. That is Cousins.

Cap space? Throwing 4 million a year at Luke Ridnour, 5.5 million a year at Martell Webster, and 5 million a year at Darko (even though I think that is worth the risk) is not a good use of cap space.

I understand Minnesota is going into next year with probably 12 million in cap space - but it isn't the total amount - it is how it is used. What exactly does Minnesota plan to do with 12 million?? and that amount doesn't include Rubio's dollars if he comes to Minnesota.

I understand the theory of stockpiling young talent - and maybe a team of Rubio, Beasley, Flynn, Darko, Wesley, Love, Webster, plus 12 million...can turn the corner...

But the simple fact that I could have just typed Rubio, Beasley, Curry, Darko, Cousins, Love, plus 20 million (as Ridnour/Webster aren't needed) shows how badly Kahn has managed this team.

[gladdyontherise]

He was? Wow, that's news to me...and yes, you are supposed to lock up your star player - but when the player HIMSELF is saying "that's too much", you listen and act accordingly. KG knew that the money he would be getting (and ultimately ended up getting) would prevent the team from signing good free agents - and that's why they were a first-round exit year after year after year. As for the draft picks, they had originally lost 5, but regained 2 - and so what if they would've been low picks or not? We had NO opportunity to draft decent young players for several years, thanks to McHale. He made a few decent moves, but most of those were overshadowed by his lack of braincells in regards to adding players from outside the organization. Kahn may not be making stellar moves, but at least he is looking towards the future somewhat by trading for younger players/cap space, and more importantly, not throwing draft picks into the crapper.

They could've given KG the MLE free agents with talent still wouldnt go to Minnesota (see the Cavs, they had LeBron and no one wanted to be in Cleveland)

They made a SPORTS WRITER into a GM, and he is by far the worst GM in the league and have set back the Twolves franchise further behind than they already were...Kahn isn't looking towards the future, he's trading/signing people he likes and getting rid of those he doesn't like

[garnett_21]

Drafting 3 PG's in the 1st round is throwing draft picks into the crapper

Drafting Wesley Johnson, when everyone knew Cousins was much better, is not utlizing your ability to add talent. Wesley might be very solid - Minnesota can't take "solid" they need all-star level. That is Cousins.

Cap space? Throwing 4 million a year at Luke Ridnour, 5.5 million a year at Martell Webster, and 5 million a year at Darko (even though I think that is worth the risk) is not a good use of cap space.

I understand Minnesota is going into next year with probably 12 million in cap space - but it isn't the total amount - it is how it is used. What exactly does Minnesota plan to do with 12 million?? and that amount doesn't include Rubio's dollars if he comes to Minnesota.

I understand the theory of stockpiling young talent - and maybe a team of Rubio, Beasley, Flynn, Darko, Wesley, Love, Webster, plus 12 million...can turn the corner...

But the simple fact that I could have just typed Rubio, Beasley, Curry, Darko, Cousins, Love, plus 20 million (as Ridnour/Webster aren't needed) shows how badly Kahn has managed this team.

But at least they had picks to use - the Rubio/Flynn picks made sense to me at the time, and aside from Rubio's antics, it still makes sense to me. The Lawson pick is what confused me, but we traded him for a future first rounder (which is ok with me).

Johnson/Cousins - we don't have the need for another undersized big. We do have the need for a decent mid-range shooter. Johnson was the better pick for us at this time.

Cap space - Webster is our highest paid player - I don't think any of those are bad moves. Ridnour is a decent veteran PG...not great, but decent...same with Webster...and Darko played well for us last season...he may be a draft bust, but he did relatively decent for us since the trade...and he's one of the tallest players we've had in some time!

As for what we do with the cap space - well, that's a mystery to all of us - but, I certainly hope that we go after someone halfway decent.

And I'm by no means saying Kahn is great - but he certainly isn't the worst GM ever. I don't know that McHale is even the worst ever, but Kahn certainly ranks higher on my list than McHale does, no question about it.

[asujbl]

But at least they had picks to use - the Rubio/Flynn picks made sense to me at the time, and aside from Rubio's antics, it still makes sense to me. The Lawson pick is what confused me, but we traded him for a future first rounder (which is ok with me).

Johnson/Cousins - we don't have the need for another undersized big. We do have the need for a decent mid-range shooter. Johnson was the better pick for us at this time.

Cap space - Webster is our highest paid player - I don't think any of those are bad moves. Ridnour is a decent veteran PG...not great, but decent...same with Webster...and Darko played well for us last season...he may be a draft bust, but he did relatively decent for us since the trade...and he's one of the tallest players we've had in some time!

As for what we do with the cap space - well, that's a mystery to all of us - but, I certainly hope that we go after someone halfway decent.

And I'm by no means saying Kahn is great - but he certainly isn't the worst GM ever. I don't know that McHale is even the worst ever, but Kahn certainly ranks higher on my list than McHale does, no question about it.

How in the world did the Rubio/Flynn picks make sense at the time? It made zero sense - if anything it made negative sense. You draft one of them and then you draft Curry. It was so obvious that 99.9% of America knew it was going to happen. Then Kahn pulled an Isiah move out of his butt. Then wasting another pick on Lawson, just to flip him for a 2014 pick?? That's plain idiotic.

Johnson will be solid - never great - I don't consider that a good use of a Top 5 pick. The Timberwolves should have made their move for Evan Turner or taken the player with the greatest upside - and that was Cousins - no matter what position he plays. The Timberwolves are way too far away from a title to be adding "solid" players in the Top 5 of a draft.

Webster makes way too much coin. Waste of a trade. Ridnour is a solid value on a team that needs a PG - not on a team that has like 11 of them. All Ridnour does is block Rubio even more from coming.

Forget all that even - here is all that really matters - what does David Kahn have to show for the Kevin Garnett trade? The answer is Kosta Koufous and 2 picks in the late 20's.

That's pathetic.

[xavieronly1]

Nope - McHale still tops my list. He screwed the Wolves out of 5 years of first round picks, something that Kahn has yet to do. He also sign KG to such a large contract, which KG did NOT want, and expressed his concern with it often, that screwed the team over from getting any decent free agent talent for 6 years. Kahn has made some dumb trades (from the outside looking in, at least) - McHale screwed the entire franchise for a decade plus.

I don't think you heard of the news when KG rejected the offer 102 million in 1997, right? I called it greedy because KG wants to have largest contract in all sports. And even McHale didn't offer this much, Knicks and some big market teams would offer this crazy amount to KG anyway when it had no cap salary back then.