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    they look way to identical to each other.

    go get a peice of paper and a pen and write ur name 10 times, then sign ur name 10 times. they wont look identical. steves looks like a machine is signing his name.

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    also, I just remeasured, the loop on the bottom of the Y is markedly longer on one than the other and the loop on the top of the Y is markedly wider.

    Also, the part of the Y that begins the letter (off to the left) if like HALF AN INCH different on one than the other. How is an autopen reproducing these?

    I agree the end is a bit suspicious, but I just don't see how an autopen can recreate letters that are FORMED DIFFERENTLY. I know there is some variation in placement but not in the way the letters are formed.

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    i think ima end this right now, when u look @ the 3 examples the 1st and 3rd pic to be exact, the S is identical, the teve have the exact same spacing and height to them. same thing with the Y... identical, oung same thing exact same spacing and height. heres what i think, he might sign some and others will just get autopenned

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    the top 3 pics in this post are all AUTOPEN i believe. way to identical.

    cyberer.. re-scan your cards & blow them up & re-post them. i dont think yours are autopen. Both are simular but still have suttle differences. The darker card is hard to get a good read on.

    I have a return from Mr Young & mine have differences between the sigs.

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    There is the blown up scan. I put in red lines to show my point. The red lines are exactly the same length (made in microsoft paint by copying and pasting the same line). Notice the red line on the left connecting the outside of the Y to the inside is very different. Also the top right red line does not extent into the blue sharpie on the left, and it does on the right. Finally, the bottom of the Y's red line is clearly different in both.

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    thanks cyberer... those are def NOT autopen. not only the differences you pointed out but the curve of his last name. one is at an angle & smaller then the other, along with the curl at the end of "STEVE" one "E" has more of a curve then the other.

    100% NOT auto-pen. In my opinion which we all know means absolutely nothing...

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    yeah, I know you can never be 100% sure, but if signatures look significantly different than why not just assume it's real? It's more fun that way.

    Still even speaking objectively I think those aren't autopens.

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    I personally don't believe they are autopens because of the fact that there are little differences in the signatures. Even though the differences are very small, if they were autopen they would be absolutely identical with no differences. And as far as people saying if they were real they wouldn't look so similar that doesn't make any sense. I have 3 Brett Favre autographs, all certified with his holo and COA and they all look extremely similar. These athletes sign thousands of autograph so of course there signature will look the same everytime.

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