Official Monday Night Raw & Smackdown Thread

[brandonbarnett]

If you really think that's all because of Miz then I feel sorry for you. No one man has that much power (positive or negative) in a billion dollar business.

Their numbers are down so much because their PPV buyrates are the lowest in history. A combo of terrible cards for these PPV's and being able to easily find links to watch them online for free = huge dropoff in numbers.

Never once said it was all because of the Miz, but they did better without him as champ and as a mouthy mid carder......theres lots of different factors to loses, such as the ppv buyrates you mentioned, the lack luster writing, the fact they brought Rock in for a bit, spent to bring back tough enough (which did very well).....but when your the champ and focal point you take alot of the heat i.e. Nash as champ ended up one of the least profitable years ever and he tool alot of heat for it......

[duwal]

Very true, but its alot of hindsight deals also....is it better to be a top face on a brand going no where or a mid carder in the best brand every? But I would be so harsh on AJ Vs Sin Cara he could really help him develop kinda like the whole bryan/rhodes/dibiase deal is now

I think he thinks of it just like all of us with our jobs. Are we content with having seniority and steady work at our jobs?? Or do we try and make the jump towards something possibly better even if it means being at the bottom floor going up??

I've thought about it, I've had offers from other law firms where I could reach the 7 figure salary. But it can be scary. I've been at my current job for 11 years, I go someplace new and its walking on a tightrope to impress

[detroittigerfan76]

after reading through all these threads the last couple months it is widely known that there is a direct correlation between the loss of revenue and profit coinsiding with the unavailability of Zach Ryder merchandise

Borrowing a line from dibease thats priceless lol

[brandonbarnett]

I think he thinks of it just like all of us with our jobs. Are we content with having seniority and steady work at our jobs?? Or do we try and make the jump towards something possibly better even if it means being at the bottom floor going up??

I've thought about it, I've had offers from other law firms where I could reach the 7 figure salary. But it can be scary. I've been at my current job for 11 years, I go someplace new and its walking on a tightrope to impress

Perfect point....I can make 5.00 more a hour at a different nursing home, but the other one may not let me work 3 days a week to get my 40 hrs, and may not be backed by a place that has near 100 different places I can work in Ohio in case I need more hours.......didn't look at it like that til now, thanks for the insight

[detroittigerfan76]

Ive noticed recently there are several members that get pretty hostile when your opinion doesnt match theirs. Just remember what makes this forum great its the ability to share one opinins bout stuff. Example my opinion is cena an orton are not so super. But i think the miz an zach ryder are awesome! But thats just my two cents.
lets keep those opinions coming its what makes this forum great

[gladdyontherise]

Yet last year the same Q/1/2010 they were 24.7 mil to the Good, and had like 138.7 Mil and revenue and shares were worth .22 more per share

You do realize the 1st quarter of 2010 included Wrestlemania whereas the 1st quarter of 2011 didn't include Wrestlemania? HUGE difference right there...

but regardless its the Miz's fault Wrestlemania fell in the 2nd quarter this year instead of the 1st? When the chairman of the company praises you all the time, and says the Miz is the future of the WWE, I find it hard to believe he's losing the company money

[gladdyontherise]

I just read that "apparantly" The Ultimate Broski, Zack Ryder was suppose to have a match/promo on RAW but that was the rib, and "apparantly" it po'd alot of the wrestlers including Cena.

Vince hates this guy, its such a shame, Ryder was gonna turn face on RAW :(

Come on Vince, putting Zack Ryder on TV = RATINGS AND YOUTUBE VIEWS

[Apocalypz26]

I just read that "apparantly" The Ultimate Broski, Zack Ryder was suppose to have a match/promo on RAW but that was the rib, and "apparantly" it po'd alot of the wrestlers including Cena.

Vince hates this guy, its such a shame, Ryder was gonna turn face on RAW :(

Come on Vince, putting Zack Ryder on TV = RATINGS AND YOUTUBE VIEWS

wonder what he did to make Vince hate him so much lol, if he doesn't like the guy he should just fire him, i'm sure Vince doesn't need the few extra t-shirt sales with his bankroll

[MCXC1987]

Because I think Vince knows where he would end up. And the fans reaction. I mean WWE isn't completely in tune with their fan base. They were "shocked" by the reaction of Christian losing the belt what 2 days after he won it.

[gladdyontherise]

Zack Ryder was correct. The WWE clearly has cold feet about putting him on TV..

First Miz loses his title which makes WWE boring enough, but now no Ryder 5 second appearances!?!?

Down with WWE!